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Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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I find it odd that there is no mention in parent article or in any comments that Reddit is a subsidiary of the Condé Nast media empire. Their ultimate profit goal doesn't align with users and relies on algos and top-down intervention to generate cash and clicks.

Partisanship doesn't contribute to this aim, so, how is their killing a discussion board newsworthy or surprising to anyone?

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> I think reddit 'leans a bit right' This has to be a joke. Either you are so 'left-wing' that you consider Obama, Biden, etc, as 'right-wing', or you are ignoring the vast majority of the site. 'left-wing' views are not 'tolerated', they are celebrated. There are consistent 60k+ upvoted 'trump bad', 'obama good', 'republicans bad' posts from default subs. When's the last time you've seen anything 'right-leaning' on…

I am not joking, and yes Obama and Biden are very clearly right-wing politicians. I have not seen a single actually left-wing policy out of either of them. Also, please don't assume the people you're talking to online are 'joking' when they express their serious views. It's against HN guidelines to assume such bad faith in my answers. > 'left-wing' views are not 'tolerated', they are celebrated. I don't see that at a…

Reddit is an American company, with a largely American user base. From an American perspective, it is a very left-leaning site.

Judging reddit from the point of view of a communist is not helpful. I'm sure there are people who view Trump as too left-wing, but that doesn't make it so.

> I don't see that at all on reddit.

I do see that on reddit.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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This really is the key point. Posts which on Twitter or Facebook would be deemed as hate are allowed now on Reddit. They were not before. Indeed in most EU countries, Reddit steps over the line into hate speech by allowing it against certain groups. There is an important caveat as it still would not allow violence, harassment or bullying.

I am actually shocked at how little thought went into this policy. For example in UK, women are majority. This policy now allows someone to say "I hate women". Everyone except Americas and Europe can now say "we hate people of color". This is such a short sighted policy that I can't believe it's not a joke.

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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I see someone isn’t a fan of Martin Luther King Jr. and the civil rights movement. What’s your evidence that left wing violence exceeds right wing? By the by, a lot of the “left wing” violence recently was caused by right wing militia “boogaloo” people. https://www.salon.com/2020/06/17/far-right-boogaloo-boy-kill...

> I see someone isn’t a fan of Martin Luther King Jr. and the civil rights movement. Organizations change. In the same way that just because the democratic party has a horribly racist history doesn’t make the current party horribly racist. > By the by, a lot of the “left wing” violence recently was caused by right wing militia “boogaloo” people. The “boogaloo” are a conspiracy theory. Which is more believable: 1) A f…

I was referring to the language used in the press during the civil rights era, which referred to the protests led by MLK as “riots” as well.

I posted a link to a reputable news source. The right wing militias are well known, and the “boogaloo” has been well documented.

You have presented no evidence whatsoever.

Who is the far left wing group you speak of? These folks? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism

I’m on their side, 100%. You?

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Which is a nice loophole when we know the battle for votes is primarily fought on social media

Doesn't the concept of freedom of speech necessitate the freedom from speech, ie. the right to remain silent? To force a company to say something they don't want to is in my opinion worse than allowing them to say nothing. I don't expect Breitbart to voice my opinions, for instance, and I don't expect Twitter to voice theirs if they don't want to.

Companies are not people. We impose tons of restrictions on companies that would be unreasonable to impose on individuals. Besides they are legally platforms and thus they're not saying anything although their users might. If my friend said something it does not mean I said it or even agreed with it

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"closed loop hypocrisy" sounds intriguing and is exactly the kind of counter-intuitive idea I'm drawn to. I'm not sure I entirely follow your explanation and Google is not bringing up much. Do you have a link to a longer explanation of some kind?

I do not. It's a theory a friend and I philosophized about for a while in college, but nothing published. If you'd like to check our work though, play with proving/disproving the following: 1. All negativity/opposition is inherently hypocritical 2. Negativity/opposition is necessary 3. Your opposition will always focus more on your negative differences than your negative similarities 4. Focusing on similarities is th…

I'm sitting here thanking God for people like you because what you've just described sounds IDEAL.

I firmly believe the best way to resolve all this is not censorship but by shining that light as brightly as possible.

I wonder what a workable version of this looks like?

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Is email controlled by Google and Yahoo?

No, only by Google.

Email is not controlled by Google. There is myriad of other big players in the field, plus you can get an email server on your own domain up and running in ~ 5 minutes

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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The title should be updated, as T_D was just one of a large number of subs banned today; even then, it has been largely irrelevant since the admins' earlier decision to quarantine it and impose other restrictions. Other larger banned subs include /r/GenderCritical (anti-Trans) and /r/ConsumeProduct which was ostensibly for criticism of consumerism and product promotion, but hid a large strain of antisemitism below th…

> /r/GenderCritical (anti-Trans)

This is not a fair portrayal of that sub.

Reddit can do what it likes about banning political subs but the banning of r/gendercritical is quite concerning, in my opinion.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Irony has always been a tool of the far right, from the nazis to the Christchurch shooter. How 4chan and t_d use it is not especially different.

I agree on that, but I think this case was a bit different. A lot of the early posts were making fun of Trump pretty thinly veiled.

There were some subreddits that were taken over by the people they made fun of, /r/gamersriseup started like that before it took a turn IIRC
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