r/RightWingLGBT was also banned because it supposedly promotes "hate" What is hate, anyways?
When someone disagrees with you
Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse
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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse
#662Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would something decentralized help? I don't think people want that. The_Donald involved a lot of spreading their message / fake news sites / spamming across other subs and etc. Do people want to be on a platform where other folks on the same platform are targeting their community with dishonest and often bigoted content? I'm also not sure how much The_Donald was as a community. The sheer volume of users at its height…
> I'm also not sure how much The_Donald was as a community. The sheer volume of users at its height seemed to involve a huge amount of brand new accounts you never saw again / never posted again (except when they show up as a group again), and etc. Or those without brand new accounts show up and post strange dishonest lead in type posts that sort of try to lead folks down a bigoted path ... that you can blatantly see…
For general web forums, I would personally like to see personal SSL certificates required to create an account. That would at least weed out people creating multiple accounts. As for cases where anonymity is required, there could be other information that balances out missing info on the certificate. For example one field would be how much they paid for the cert (assuming the CA has variable pricing). So someone could for example pay $20 for an anonymous certificate (just a certificate number and pseudonym, possibly an anonymous email), yet it would be cost prohibitive to get unlimited number of certs to create fake accounts.
Also, along with personal SSL certs, it would be nice to have a system to keep track of a person's reputation score across multiple forums.
Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse
#663Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would something decentralized help? I don't think people want that. The_Donald involved a lot of spreading their message / fake news sites / spamming across other subs and etc. Do people want to be on a platform where other folks on the same platform are targeting their community with dishonest and often bigoted content? I'm also not sure how much The_Donald was as a community. The sheer volume of users at its height…
Fake news for us, but not to those who were part of it. It wasn't fake news at all. They are going to group again somewhere else. The member might see this as action to silence. This could make them even more angry and isolated. Reddit meanwhile will be a unreliable source of information to them.
They already build a clone of their reddit forum a long time ago.
Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse
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I find it wierd what some Americans consider to be communist. A communist is not somebody who advocates for * equal rights for all people independent of ethnic origin, skin color, gender or religion * public transit * universal access to health care * affordable higher education * affordable housing * or even wealth redistribution via taxes, for example via welfare or a guaranteed minimum income A Communist is somebo…
And a white supremacist is not someone who advocates for bringing jobs back home, or enforcing immigration law. But people still feel free to call Trump racist because of those policies. The reason is that people view him as having ulteriour motives beyond his stated ones. Everyone is for affordable housing, so being in favour of that has no political bearing. But there are different proposed solutions to that. Putti…
> a white supremacist is not someone who advocates for bringing jobs back home, or enforcing immigration law. But people still feel free to call Trump racist because of those policies.
And his multiple criminal/civil findings of guilt for discrimination against black people and minorities in his real estate businesses?
I'm going to take a guess that _that_ may be why people call racist, not because he "advocates for bringing jobs back home" (while happily continuing to move / keep his own production in China and Asia).
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> racism has to be directed towards a marginalized group vs derogatory statements based on racial characteristics. Here I am old school just thinking the color of a mans skin should have no more significance than the color of his eyes... I don’t believe in the oppression olympics and that hate is ok because group A has it worse than B. Edit: HN 2020, ideals of Haile Selassie are rejected in the name of “tolerance” I…
> Here I am old school just thinking the color of a mans skin should have no more significance than the color of his eyes... I almost certain neither group on either side agrees with that. The people on the left will argue that color is important and is deeply connected to culture and through subconscious/ institutional racism. To pretend to be blind to race or think of it like any other physical characteristic would…
From a mainstream point of view (of let's say twitterverse) the left is the only one I have seen claim that race should be used in social policing.
The right would rather use race correlation those metrics to argue that the status quo is fair, not racist and just due to meritocracy.
Personally I think both are wrong as the status quo should be improved quite drastically, but also I believe that race-aware policies will ultimately slowdown progress and lead to push back.
Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse
#666Earlier quoted context omitted.
Naming them grants them glory as martyrs, especially when the subreddit's name is a google-unique term that they can use to regroup and to attract supporters to their cause. It's already too late for the top 10, but that's no reason to give the rest a free boost.
I mean it would be nice to know if anything I was subscribed to was banned. Denying us that is irritating at best.
Theoretically, I can see why that would be distressing as an end-user, but wearing my platform operator hat^, I can't think of any way to implement that doesn't result in either driving traffic to competing platforms, assisting rulebreakers in their inevitable quest to rouse a pitchfork mob against their own platform, and/or is interpreted to be saying that users are bad for having subscribed to banned content.
^ I do not operate any public platforms.
Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse
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Gendercritical was not "extreme left". It was an anti-trans (TERF) subreddit hated by actual leftist subs.
Confusion caused by attempting to sort human beliefs in a one-dimensional space strikes again! To be clear I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you or the parent poster, just commenting on the ambiguity.
TERFs falling out of favour with the "actual leftist subs" is also a relatively new thing... they used to be strongly TERF apologist at the very least, if not actively and heavily promoting them in the case of several of the more feminist-aligned ones. Think last few years. This isn't just a Reddit thing either; questioning their ties to the UK's main left-wing political party (which has actually influenced our laws for the worse) used to be way outside the range of acceptable leftism, but has suddenly become a controversial hot topic in the last few months.
Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse
#668I used to spend a lot of money on Reddit gold until few years ago when Reddit blocked any discussion about the gay club shooting at Pulse nightclub. The_Donald was the only sub which allowed discussion of it and seemed to be the only ones who could sympathize with the gay community on Reddit at that time.
Before that, I used to believe right wingers were a bunch of homophobes and what not but if that was the case, why would would they be the only one discussing and sympathizing with the families of the victims?
Why was the supposed homophobic and violent sub The_Donald the only ones which were allowing stickies for blood donations towards the shooting victims while the /r/news sub deleting any comment which talked about blood donations to the victims? PEOPLE LITERALLY DIED and for all the virtue signaling Reddit and the front page subs did, they didn't care about the victims?
https://web.archive.org/web/20160612232812/http://i.imgur.co...
https://web.archive.org/web/20160612215205/https://www.reddi...
https://web.archive.org/web/20160612215019/http://reddit.com...
https://web.archive.org/web/20160613172842/http://reddit.com...
Here's people literally pleading mods of /r/news to not delete blood donation comments:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160612212229/http://media.brei...
When people called out the mods of /r/news to stop censoring, the mod told them to "kill yourself":
https://web.archive.org/web/20160616024508/http://imgur.com/...
Here's mods of /r/news deleting a comment about a missing friend:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160920213229/https://i.imgur.c...
This made me re-think about whether my side was the bad guys? Since I am a brown immigrant myself, I was always told right wingers hate me and other minorities. I had never looked deep enough. The Orlando Pulse nightclub shooting which killed 50 gays made me re-think. Why is the side which supposedly hates minorities the only one talking about blood donations to the victims?
This also made me question why was "/r/rightwingLGBT" banned? Are gays not allowed to be conservative?
Since then, I started browsing The_Donald more often and despite whatever media says, there can sometimes be tongue in cheek memes and comments on there but they are not evil people as media and Reddit makes them out to be. There's a huge community there with gays, hispanics, blacks and every minority group which media claims right wingers hate. When hurricane Maria hit Puerto Rico 3 years ago, The_Donald was the only sub where people were sharing how a lot of the FEMA supplies were going missing. Everyone else was calling this a conspiracy theory but there were people literally sharing videos of garbage trucks and warehouses filled with perfectly well and brand new supplies. It was quite sinister. Then the truth finally came out earlier this year that they found 8 warehouses full of FEMA supplies which were rotting away and never given to the Puerto Rico people who were literally starving and dying. These are the types of incidents which have changed my mind since then that there's evil in media and many people who are actively willing to let people suffer and die if it makes right wingers look bad.
I might get downvoted for this comment but I hope few people pay attention to what's happening and dig a bit deeper than what media and big tech are telling them. I used to be a liberal - I am still a liberal on most things but I can no longer identify with the current left. It breaks my heart on what people have become.
Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse
#669They literally greenlit racism against Whites:
"Marginalized or vulnerable groups include, but are not limited to, groups based on their actual and perceived race, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, immigration status, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, pregnancy, or disability. These include victims of a major violent event and their families.
While the rule on hate protects such groups, it does not protect all groups or all forms of identity. For example, the rule does not protect groups of people who are in the majority or who promote such attacks of hate."
Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse
#670Earlier quoted context omitted.
Naming them grants them glory as martyrs, especially when the subreddit's name is a google-unique term that they can use to regroup and to attract supporters to their cause. It's already too late for the top 10, but that's no reason to give the rest a free boost.
I mean it would be nice to know if anything I was subscribed to was banned. Denying us that is irritating at best.
Here’s a partial crowdsourced list https://www.reddit.com/r/reclassified/comments/hi41t2/the_ba...