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Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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> It is a common sentiment there that the only good Democrat is a dead one. A similar sentiment is commonly expressed by far left individuals and groups on Twitter, Facebook and other mediums. "the only good Tory is a dead Tory" has been the popular refrain for decades. It's depressing these sentiments are carelessly amplified and approved by so many. Edit: Apparently this has caused a stir. I encourage others to not…

This isn’t even about picking a political side. Being racist, misogynist, or calling to violence is not an opinion, it’s even downright illegal in some countries. There are plenty of subreddits on the political spectrum for example on economic theories, socialistic or capitalistic, or the pro/limiting immigration. But the line is clear with hateful content.

Of course it's not about picking political sides. I certainly did not intend to do so, if that's the impression you have taken. The sentiment is universally contemptible.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Whether you agree with the move or not, it's funny how Reddit's stance has changed over time. Under the old ownership, 2012: "At reddit we care deeply about not imposing ours or anyone elses’ opinions on how people use the reddit platform. We are adamant about not limiting the ability to use the reddit platform even when we do not ourselves agree with or condone a specific use. We have very few rules here on reddit;…

> and no interfering the site's functions Spamming the r/all homepage due to eliminating downvotes certainly interferes with the sites functions

That's not what happened. T_D was hardly the only subreddit that disabled upvotes with CSS (which prevents you from clicking the button on the old.reddit desktop version.. nothing else).

Furthermore, most of Reddit's traffic is mobile, where CSS has no functionality.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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The title should be updated, as T_D was just one of a large number of subs banned today; even then, it has been largely irrelevant since the admins' earlier decision to quarantine it and impose other restrictions. Other larger banned subs include /r/GenderCritical (anti-Trans) and /r/ConsumeProduct which was ostensibly for criticism of consumerism and product promotion, but hid a large strain of antisemitism below th…

/r/cumtown was Chapo adjacent and also got the axe. Part of the dirtbag left or whatever they go by now.

Cumtown the podcast is chapo adjacent, /r/cumtown the subreddit was much closer to the The_Donald than chapo with its content.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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> They were just politically unviable. We all know reddit leans a bit left, but the ban also included /r/chapotraphouse which is a leftist subreddit that was also notorious for rule breaking. Frankly, it seems reddit went out of its way to accommodate the_donald for a while now.

> We all know reddit leans a bit left Do we? I think reddit 'leans a bit right' if anything. Especially in the city-level subreddits or country-level, or communities like that, there is (in my experience) a heavy-handed right-leaning attitude. I noticed this about 10 years ago and it has gotten much much more pronounced. The subreddit r/canada turned extreme-far-right about 10 years ago. Most of the cities I live in…

> Do we? I think reddit 'leans a bit right' if anything. Especially in the city-level subreddits or country-level, or communities like that, there is (in my experience) a heavy-handed right-leaning attitude.

Who subscribes to such subreddits? People who are invested in their city or their country, which is itself a right-wing attitude. Apart from that, people are more right-wing at the city-level. Many who would roll their eyes at someone talking about "national identity" or wearing a flag pin, talk about "neighborhood character" and wear "I ️ $city" t-shirts.

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As a counterpoint to that, there is really nothing “normal” about supporting Trump. He really is just as bad as his critics say. This is the guy that retweeted a video of someone yelling white power in support. This is the guy who called COVID-19 the “Kung flu.” This is the guy that said there were “fine people on both sides” where one side was neo-Nazis. This is the guy that encouraged both police and rally-goers to…

I'm still amazed at how effectively the media has brainwashed half of the voting public in the US that the other half are literal monsters. I say this with complete sympathy and sincerity - please seek professional help, from a declared non-political therapist. You need to break out of the daily "two-minutes of hate" conditioning, and just relearn to live in a society with different viewpoints.

Your post history indicates you're not exactly immune to making large sweeping claims against portions of the voting public either. You should take your own advice before criticizing others.

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How many left-leaning subreddits were banned? There're several toxic commie subs with a lot of hatred thrown around, but nobody seems to care. r/politics was default for ages and it wasn't exactly a welcoming place.

I find it wierd what some Americans consider to be communist. A communist is not somebody who advocates for * equal rights for all people independent of ethnic origin, skin color, gender or religion * public transit * universal access to health care * affordable higher education * affordable housing * or even wealth redistribution via taxes, for example via welfare or a guaranteed minimum income A Communist is somebo…

That's the end state that Marxists believe will obtain (though Marx would have thought advocating for things like that odd). However, in practice, communists often support social changes that facilitate a state of affairs that is favorable to communism. They often employ the aid of unwitting supporters which is why most people who support these causes will flatly deny that they are communists because they aren't, at least not totally or consciously. (Note that when I say "communism" I am using the meaning it has been typically given in practice which is synonymous with "state socialism".) Gramsci, Rudtke, and Marcuse advocated this approach.

For example, many groups that advocate the dissolution of the nuclear family or sexual revolution have a communist origin. Why? Because it is an act of social engineering that aims to strengthen the power of the state by isolating individuals and creating a dependence on the state in various ways (the promotion of sexual license and various depravities also takes the old Augustinian[0] observation and turns it on its head, using such things to blind and enslave the populace). There is historical precedent for this as well in places like the Soviet Union. Pavlik Morozov comes to mind[1].

A great timely example is BLM. If you visit the BLM website and read their mission statement, it reads like something straight out of a Marxist handbook. This is no accident. The founders of BLM are indeed committed Marxists (they've been open about it) and routinely celebrate Marxist criminals like Assata Shakur who is wanted by the FBI. BLM is hardly the only organization that does this. It suffices to note the influence Saul Alinsky has had on many on the left including many prominent people on the left. The community organizing tactics outlined in books like "Rules for Radicals" are nothing more than revolutionary tactics that are used to transfer power to oneself.

(Incidentally, much of what we're seeing is class conflict masquerading as racial conflict.)

[0] “Thus, a good man, though a slave, is free; but a wicked man, though a king, is a slave. For he serves, not one man alone, but what is worse, as many masters as he has vices.”

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavlik_Morozov

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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One thing that seems to not be mentioned in Reddit's new policy: They're now auto-removing comments that contain certain phrases or words. Not even moderators can approve them: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/hhtwxi/culture_wa...

It looks like it is no longer possible to make a comment containing "thedonald.win" on Reddit. To be clear: Reddit isn't just censoring links to that site, it's censoring mentioning it.

This appears to be a new change as it was retroactively applied to comments from a few days ago.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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New rule change is essentially no hate subs except if it’s hate against a majority aka white people. As a minority I’m tired of defending white people from other white people and being shouted at by white people for doing so. I’ve tried for 6 years to push for equality for all and had the most insane rebuttals against that.

Oddest thing is that many groups deemed a majority are not if one looks at a global scale. It really seems the terms majority/minority are selectively defined as needed to target certain groups.

It's not even true on a per country level, for instance in Bahrain and UAE the majority of the population are south Asian people. It does not protect them from racism.

It's not uncommon around the world for racism and discrimination to be perpetuated by a small but powerful aristocracy.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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That was effectively a challenge: how bad can you be without explicitly violating the rules? (I call this "I'm not touching you Fascism", after the popular children's pastime. The goal is to enrage people without ever crossing anything that might be considered a clear line. Most systems evolve a meta-rule somewhere that "pushing the boundaries of the rules is itself against the rules". At the very least "ban evasion"…

But the current rules Reddit are still an invitation to "I'm not touching you Fascism". Fascists haven't gone away. They still are around and they still think fascist things, they've just metastasized into a subtler form of cancer. The only difference now is that we can't confront fascism with the truth any more. Ironically, by using the tools of the fascist against them we've implicitly admitted that the fascist is…

> The only difference now is that we can't confront fascism with the truth any more.

How effective has "confronting fascism with the truth" ever been? Especially on the web? My impression is that fascist/racist ideas aren't spread in open debates where the truth matters, but indirectly: through deniable memes and dog whistles initially, then slowly, as people's innate defenses are lowered, through many stages of more and more open exposition.

> Ironically, by using the tools of the fascist against them we've implicitly admitted that the fascist is right. When we censor, we're saying that our ideas should be determined by who has the power to enforce censorship, not by compassion and truth.

I think you're conflating censorship with exclusion, which every functioning social group needs to engage in to some degree.

Also, comparisons at very abstract levels aren't very enlightening in this case. You really have to get into the details to make a true comparison.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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What did that subreddit do besides hating on trans people? I never saw anything but countless posts targeting hate against trans people.

Could you expand on objectively what you experienced that you felt was hate?

Hate is just a "word" used to express human emotion to another human. Someone can view "hate" differently because they've not experienced the emotion of another that has defined hate from their own personal unique life events.

In this world I've encountered people that truly hate others so very much. They wish what they hate didn't exist and they honestly believe the world would be better if it happened to become true. I have even felt that feeling in my life but from personal abuse I experienced from anti-lgbtq+ parents. I consider myself permanently disfigured because of being prevented medical treatment when young. So I have constant reminders with all the other abuse I lived from my parents.

In any case gendercritical specifically promoted slang for trans people. Slang that would at the same time be used to invalidate trans people as nothing but the sex they were born at birth and while justifying the belief that everyone should just accept we're all born without choice in this world without having any right to personally fix what we dislike. Countless trans people were harassed by posts created on that subreddit of misfortunate transgender people just dealing with the cards they've been dealt. The posts would have constant comments making fun of how they look so much as their birth sex and derogatory jokes towards the person's misfortunate circumstances.

Anyway I'm happy about the decision of Reddit. I go through life with realizing people don't have free will and we're just in a dysfunctional system that's constantly evolving to hopefully one day make it so people don't behave so cruel to one another.

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