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Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by fortran77 »

shiado wrote: post #106

Reddit really had a good run as an interesting site, but it's really angling for a FB style consumer ad experience now. I think the final blow will be when they go after porn like tumblr did, then it will die forever. Too bad the alternatives are pretty extremist. I think Dread is really the best one because people who want to buy drugs on the internet aren't there completely for the politics.

I tried some of the alternatives. I figured if the people I don't like stay in their subgroups, I'm fine. But they don't. They invade every group. I don't want to see extremely racist posts in my "anti-bicyclist" group (for example). They'll take every post and make it about race.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by imustbeevil »

epa wrote: post #165
nullc wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just hate you, but stalk, threaten and harass you. There are some people where even just saying-- as a moderator-- "Hey, can you chill out and at lease pretend to treat other posters with some respect" will trigger a full on war against you. There aren't many people like this, but it only takes a few because even a single obsessed person can spew a lot of hate.

You realize that it is possible to log out and walk away right?

You realize that people will look through 20 years of post history, triangulate every piece of information you've ever mistakenly let loose that you haven't thought about in a decade, and use that information to harass you outside of the internet, right?

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by CM30 »

ve55 wrote: post #7

Worth taking note that in today's climate, you really cannot win when you are in a position to moderate important things that a lot of people use. There is constantly tremendous pressure on you to perform opposing actions, and even making no decision at all will cause you significant mental stress and harassment, regardles of what the issue is. You have to pick who you want to cave to, and to what extent, and no matt…

The best solution is not to cave to anyone. It's to come out, say what you think is best, then tell anyone who disagrees to either take it or leave the platform.

If enough companies, groups and individuals do that, this sort of pressure will stop, since people will learn it doesn't work. Most people won't stop using a platform over this stuff anyway.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by ausbah »

some other bannings

r/Consume Product r/ClericalFascism r/Smuggies r/Debate Alright r/bruhfunny r/ShitNeoconsSay r/soyboys r/imgoingtohellforthis2 r/AltRightChristian r/TheHonkPill r/topnotchshitposting r/TheNewRight r/DarkHumorAndMemes r/Gender Critical r/ChapoTrapHouse r/rightwingLGBT r/whitebeauty r/The3rdPosition r/CumTown

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by Press2forEN »

Since the 2016 election the left has been consolidating their vast cultural power by exiling opposing views that don't pass their ever-shifting purity tests.

It remains to be seen whether or not this will bury conservative thought or cause an underground resurgence.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by criddell »

koheripbal wrote: post #56
arcticbull wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Both sides have free speech rights and both have outcomes that support that speech... "Free speech rights" don't apply between two private entities, only between the government and a private entity.

You are conflating The First Amendment (a law) with Freedom of Speech (a principle). FoS is something we should support in any context because the only speech worth hearing is the stuff you don't like hearing.

> the only speech worth hearing is the stuff you don't like hearing

What's an example that supports this? I can only think of examples that indicate the opposite.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by abc-xyz »

BoorishBears wrote: post #73
parliament32 wrote: post #9

Whether you agree with the move or not, it's funny how Reddit's stance has changed over time. Under the old ownership, 2012: "At reddit we care deeply about not imposing ours or anyone elses’ opinions on how people use the reddit platform. We are adamant about not limiting the ability to use the reddit platform even when we do not ourselves agree with or condone a specific use. We have very few rules here on reddit;…

The Donald would have been deleted under the old leadership too... They got in hot water not for supporting Trump (there are plenty of pro-Trump subreddits) but actively breaking the most basic rules of Reddit, maybe you should actually look at their history. Spamming the same images to the subreddit, interfering with other subreddits, trying to out whistleblowers in federal cases, gaming the content discovery system…

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by jkrems »

epa wrote: post #165
nullc wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just hate you, but stalk, threaten and harass you. There are some people where even just saying-- as a moderator-- "Hey, can you chill out and at lease pretend to treat other posters with some respect" will trigger a full on war against you. There aren't many people like this, but it only takes a few because even a single obsessed person can spew a lot of hate.

You realize that it is possible to log out and walk away right?

Yes - and? If those bad actors are screaming down every meaningful discussion in the forum you moderate (and supposedly care about), all the people you'd want to stick around will leave. If moderators would care little enough about the community that they log out and walk away, the wouldn't be moderators.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by belltaco »

nullc wrote: post #20

I'm confused by the article. My understanding was that reddit replaced the moderators of /r/The_Donald months ago after initially making in quarantined. The Wikipedia article seems to agree with my understanding: > In February 26, 2020, Reddit administrators removed a number of r/The_Donald moderators "that were approving, stickying, and generally supporting content in this subreddit that breaks [Reddit's] content po…

>About the same time, Reddit placed r/The_Donald in "Restricted mode", removing the ability to create new posts from most of its users.

I think this is wrong, IIRC it was the mods who chose to do that, not Reddit admins. The mods wouldn't choose other mods even though the rules made sense, like having a certain karma threshold in t_d etc.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by D13Fd »

arcticbull wrote: post #16
MINIMAN10000 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did and I was left satisfied. I wanted to see their viewpoint on at the time "the hot topic" and confirm my suspicions that I truly don't consider their viewpoint rational or valid. It's like they start from a conclusion and work backwards to excuse it.

That was my experience as well. It's a fascinating parallel universe, but it's not for me. It's kind of the same reason I watch a lot of Fox News.

I love reading foxnews.com and some of my deeply conservative relatives' Facebook feeds, because they give a perspective I'd never see otherwise (even if I generally disagree). I'm on there daily, and I'd say I get just as much news from those sources as from others, like washingtonpost.com. I also sometimes go to some old school conservative blogs like nationalreview.com/corner/, as well as sites like Drudge and Breitbart to see what they think.

But /r/the_donald was just toxic. Even when I was in the mood to see more of that kind of content, I couldn't stand more than about 5 minutes of browsing that subreddit before closing the tab in frustration and disgust.

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