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Press F to Pay Respects. BTW, the unofficial successor (as listed on the subreddit itself before the ban) is alive and well at thedonald.win
Never checked it out. Don't regret it
I wanted to see their viewpoint on at the time "the hot topic" and confirm my suspicions that I truly don't consider their viewpoint rational or valid. It's like they start from a conclusion and work backwards to excuse it.
Both Reddit's and /r/The_Donald speech protected from the outcome. From the article is that that the moderators/participants already have a new place to discuss whatever they want on a reddit clone. Reddit as a platform/company doesn't have to choose to be associated with this hate speech. Both sides have free speech rights and both have outcomes that support that speech...
If black people (or perhaps more specifically, subreddits focused on issues pertinent to black communities) were banned on reddit, but they had a much smaller website where they could discuss issues, would it be an outcome that supported their free speech?
Never checked it out. Don't regret it
I did and I was left satisfied. I wanted to see their viewpoint on at the time "the hot topic" and confirm my suspicions that I truly don't consider their viewpoint rational or valid. It's like they start from a conclusion and work backwards to excuse it.
Both Reddit's and /r/The_Donald speech protected from the outcome. From the article is that that the moderators/participants already have a new place to discuss whatever they want on a reddit clone. Reddit as a platform/company doesn't have to choose to be associated with this hate speech. Both sides have free speech rights and both have outcomes that support that speech...
Free speech has 2 distinct meanings:
1. The legal right to be free from government interference to most speech.
2. The cultural norm to tolerate speech you disagree with in order to foster political inclusion.
You're correct under meaning 1; you're not correct under meaning 2.
Press F to Pay Respects. BTW, the unofficial successor (as listed on the subreddit itself before the ban) is alive and well at thedonald.win
Appears to be fronted by Cloudflare (as of 1593450845). Curious to see how long that lasts in the current tumultuous environment.
As I commented in a previous discussion of reddit's policies (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23601595), the "quarantined subreddits" half measures were clearly too tame as a middle point, where reddit decided to both moderate which communities are wrong and at the same time not ban them (worst of both worlds).
I wonder if the discussion there was read by people at reddit, though it's probably not relevant opinions to them.
The Wikipedia article seems to agree with my understanding:
> In February 26, 2020, Reddit administrators removed a number of r/The_Donald moderators "that were approving, stickying, and generally supporting content in this subreddit that breaks [Reddit's] content policy" and called the remaining moderators to choose new ones from a list of Reddit-approved individuals.[77] About the same time, Reddit placed r/The_Donald in "Restricted mode", removing the ability to create new posts from most of its users. Since then, the subreddit's community has moved to thedonald.win, an independently hosted site based on Reddit's old user interface.
Which all sounds fine to me, but the article's quote "We’re not the ones who shut down the community. The moderators are the ones who shut down that community." seems disingenuous to me.
What's wrong with just saying that it's their platform and they have the right to set the rules?