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Re: Greatest Java apps

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Post by kitd » Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 1:48 PM UTC

tyingq wrote: post #16

I'd have to give Tomcat the #1 spot for killing off the worst parts of J2EE.

I'd say Spring takes that crown.

Re: Greatest Java apps

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Post by akavi » Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 1:49 PM UTC

guardian5x wrote: post #19

jmartrican wrote: post #10

What are the odds that a language known for its use in boring enterprise software is the language used to create the most popular video game in history (Minecraft). If C++ was a person it would be mad/salty at this fact.

Yea probably, I doubt that Minecraft would've been any less succesful written in C++ or any other language though.

I've heard that the relative ease of decompiling Java might have contributed significantly, since it made mods much easier than they would've been with C/C++.

Re: Greatest Java apps

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Post by tyingq » Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 1:50 PM UTC

kitd wrote: post #21

tyingq wrote: post #16

I'd have to give Tomcat the #1 spot for killing off the worst parts of J2EE.

I'd say Spring takes that crown.

I still give Tomcat credit for taking Websphere and Weblogic out of the way. That opened the door for Spring.

Re: Greatest Java apps

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Post by capableweb » Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 1:50 PM UTC

jordache wrote: post #12

No mention of Android? lol butt hurt

I guess it´s because Android is not mainly consisting of Java code, unlike for example Minecraft. Correct me if I´m wrong, but isn´t Android made with mostly C and C++?

Re: Greatest Java apps

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Post by maltelandwehr » Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 1:51 PM UTC

Today I learned that almost every IDE I have ever used is written in Java.

Re: Greatest Java apps

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Post by Eldt » Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 1:53 PM UTC

akavi wrote: post #22

guardian5x wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea probably, I doubt that Minecraft would've been any less succesful written in C++ or any other language though.

I've heard that the relative ease of decompiling Java might have contributed significantly, since it made mods much easier than they would've been with C/C++.

I'm confident the community driven modding contributed to Minecraft's success in a massive way.

Re: Greatest Java apps

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Post by captn3m0 » Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 1:55 PM UTC

>Some credit Minecraft’s early success to the fact that players could play in a web browser via Java applets rather than having to download and install the game.

I never knew this was possible

Re: Greatest Java apps

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Post by renw0rp » Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 1:57 PM UTC

Wasn't Google docs written using GWT?

Re: Greatest Java apps

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Post by rando231 » Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 2:01 PM UTC

Sort of mystifying that ByteBuddy (a library) is included while Spring framework is not. I realize that some people point to the edges of the Spring ecosystem as proof that it is low-quality, but it's hard to argue against the framework itself being great.

Edit: To clarify, I also don't agree with 'proof' of Spring being 'low quality'. In my experience most who criticize Spring don't understand that it is a loosely coupled collection of things implemented on top of IoC/AOP, and are frustrated when they are forced to diagnose things that go wrong. From the beginning, Spring moved fast because it wasn't bogged down in committee, and it covers huge portions of software development. Quality does vary between the value add sub-projects, but it's amazing what the Spring community has done with IoC/AOP.

Re: Greatest Java apps

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Post by the_af » Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 2:02 PM UTC

guardian5x wrote: post #19

jmartrican wrote: post #10

What are the odds that a language known for its use in boring enterprise software is the language used to create the most popular video game in history (Minecraft). If C++ was a person it would be mad/salty at this fact.

Yea probably, I doubt that Minecraft would've been any less succesful written in C++ or any other language though.

Depends. Success measured how? For the end user -- the players, that is -- it would likely make little difference. For the developer, it's very different. A game that doesn't get made at all is infinitely less successful than one that exists.