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Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by aembleton »

badsectoracula wrote: post #365
ashtonkem wrote: post #343

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The idea that anyone wouldn’t maximize all applications, especially their browser, is utterly bewildering to me.

I do not maximize some of my applications because i want to have several of them visible at any time when i'm working on more than one. I do maximize some other applications, depending on what i'm doing. I do not maximize the browser because i want to have the content i'm working with/looking at/reading in front of me (especially on the reading aspect since reading long lines is tiresome) and maximizing on a 16:9 mon…

> the tendency of pretty much every site out there to use the window width as a means to differentiate between mobile and desktop sites

How would you differentiate them? At least with the width you can use css media queries so no Javascript is needed.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by concordDance »

IgorPartola wrote: post #599
concordDance wrote: post #528

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Actual discussion of racist thought is pretty off topic, I am more interested in where one could find good anti-race realist resources (and arguing for why attemptibg to censor racist thought can cause the problem of lack of said resources) then trying to rehash hundred thousand word arguments on an extremely complex topic in comments. That said, it would be rude to ignore the effort you've made, so: The main actiona…

Here: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Racism . Rational Wiki is a good resource for exploring arguments against bad ideas.

Are you being sarcastic? rationalwiki is terrible for arguments against anything (more of a place for smug circlejerks) and best I can tell doesn't include ANY arguments at all for the falseness of racism on the linked page (something of the form "if groups really did differ in average intelligence then we would expect to see X, but insteas we see Y"). I suspect the lack of such an argument is partly because, like almost everyone, they are unaware of the actual arguments HBDers make.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by sobani »

brnt wrote: post #582
luckylion wrote: post #577

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No, it's really not. Democracy can function just fine without everybody being included everywhere. I don't have an issue with it if anyone finds inclusivity to be the most important issue, but it is a progressive policy, not "core to democracy". Please stop moralizing your personal political convictions. No, you're not a good person because of random political beliefs you happen to have, no, people who don't share th…

It can function that way, its however no democracy but aristocracy. You could pick up a book on this subject to brush up your knowledge.

Ancient Athens had a democracy. It also had slavery. And of course women are more like children than full adults, so they're weren't allowed to vote too.

Democracy does not require Universal Suffrage.

Also fun quote from Wikipedia: In its original 19th-century usage by reformers in Britain, universal suffrage was understood to mean only universal manhood suffrage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_suffrage

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by ThA0x2 »

door99 wrote: post #614
kemonocode wrote: post #610

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I am anti-fascist. Neo-Nazis and anyone who espouse similar views will get absolutely no love from me. That doesn't mean I stand with Antifa.

>I am anti-fascist >That doesn't mean I stand with Antifa. Do you know what antifa is short for

Time for you to move to move to the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

After all, it's all in the name!

https://ifunny.co/picture/we-call-ourselves-the-anti-bad-guy...

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by IgorPartola »

airtonix wrote: post #429
IgorPartola wrote: post #320

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I don’t need to have a discussion with a guy who beats his wife because he never got help for his PTSD to know it’s wrong. Giving it a platform treats it like a point of view and not a gross fucking crime. I don’t need to talk to a Nazi to know that gassing Jews and gays is wrong. People seem to think that there are some unexplored ideas here that merit further discussion. We have already established that this shit i…

And here is where the SpeakWrite machine was given authority to rewrite history in order to satisfy "The Grinning Fox" as Malcom X puts it. If you don't want to talk to those people, then don't. But to stand there and claim to speak for all of us and claim you are the authority on what topics are authorised for discussion is such an disgusting level of narcisistic meglomania that needs to be stamped out. You're just…

I have no idea what I just read but I’m pretty sure that even if it was a cohesive thought that it is incorrect. Look, if you want to spend your time building a platform helping extremist groups communicate and coordinate, go right ahead. I think that’s a bad idea, and yes I am fairly certain I am right. Also, as someone who lived in an actual totalitarian regime, I think I know when I see a bad faith usage of totalitarianism in an argument.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by IgorPartola »

concordDance wrote: post #481
IgorPartola wrote: post #320

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I don’t need to have a discussion with a guy who beats his wife because he never got help for his PTSD to know it’s wrong. Giving it a platform treats it like a point of view and not a gross fucking crime. I don’t need to talk to a Nazi to know that gassing Jews and gays is wrong. People seem to think that there are some unexplored ideas here that merit further discussion. We have already established that this shit i…

> We have already established that this shit is not what we want. Ah, yes. "We were wrong about morality all those other times throughout history but THIS time we're right! Forever and ever!" Also, the things being banned are nowhere as far outside the Overton Window as your strawmen.

Sorry, what? Are you really saying that Nazis, racists, and men who beat women have an ideology worth discussing? Seriously?

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by IgorPartola »

luckylion wrote: post #596
HappyDreamer wrote: post #556

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> talking to him may make you realize he’s in a lot of pain, and that he’s been hurt by a system larger than ... I'd look at fat-people-hate and beat-women subreddits more like bank robberers planning their next attack on a bank, discussing weapons, and having a good time looking at viedos of robberies from the past. Then you can visit them and tell them "But it's wrong to rob banks, it's not your money and think of…

> Then you get banned from that subreddit, and the bank robberers continue enjoying robbing banks. Bank robbers don't rob banks because they enjoy robbing banks. Bullys don't bully because "omg wow have you tried bullying it so great". I'm all with you that bullying sucks, but if you want bullying to stop, you better damn well understand the motivation. If you reach for "they are just evil people", you're not thinkin…

There is a difference in talking to someone to understand a problem and providing a communications platform for them to connect to other bullies in order to form a community that validates the practice. How in the world is that so difficult to see?

Say you build walkie talkies, and a member of the KKK shows up and says he needs 100 of them because they are rioting in a black neighborhood tonight and need a way to coordinate their plans. Do you say “sure in fact take some for free!” just so you can listen in to understand exactly how they are terrorizing their black neighbors, or do you tell them to fuck off because you don’t want to provide tools to a hate group?

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by IgorPartola »

airtonix wrote: post #430
IgorPartola wrote: post #359

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What you say has a kernel of truth to it, but I think you are thinking of the wrong tool for the job. There was a well studied psychological phenomenon (sorry I can’t recall the name of the researchers at the moment) where if you put people of similar ideology in a room together and let them converse for a period of time, they will come out of that room holding more extreme views than they went in with, down to holdi…

if you think you can be the arbitar of moral discussion without corruption, you are sorely mistaken. or you take us all for fools.

I’ll just leave this here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Again, as with other comments above: I am not advocating for a slippery slope type of thing. I am however saying that specific groups mentioned above are widely (though not universally) considered undesirables. The specific groups: men who beat women, racists, and Nazis. Do you have a better ruler by which to measure those people and whether we should create software tools to help them communicate better/easier with each other? Do you condone any of those group and do you want to publicly defend their ideas as moral or valid? Because if not, feel free to get off the high horse and shut the fuck up.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by ollo »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #463
rolleiflex wrote: post #151

We have something similar to this, Aether. https://getaether.net . (code at github.com/nehbit/aether) Always glad to see more eyeballs on the space, so I wish then the best. Here are a few differences I can see at the first glance: - Aether is decentralised (as in torrent) this appears to be federated. That means Aether truly has no servers and every user is a peer, while federated means there are smaller ‘Reddits’ a…

This sounds pretty interesting, but is it a lot of work to moderate a home server yourself? > You are the home server, so no one can control what you see. We call this user sovereignty I’m wondering what I’d have to do to just bare minimum make sure no illegal content gets onto any hardware that I own. Just to use the obvious extreme example, I don’t want to see any illegal pornography, which in addition to not wanti…

I would like to know this as well. If it is clear how to do so, I'd gladly join.
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