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Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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Post by lordgrenville »

shanemhansen wrote: post #101
smichel17 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On mobile it's very difficult to read because the font is too small and line width is too long, so I have to choose between squinting or scrolling back and forth and back and forth and.. (or use Firefox's reader mode). I don't mind plain text, but this site is several orders of magnitude harder to read than http://motherfuckingwebsite.com

On mobile it's really easy for me to read. Don't is at a natural size and lines wrap appropriately. [edit] Oh I see it looks bad in Firefox on mobile. Fair enough.

It's pretty uncomfortable to read on desktop, too - at least on my large monitor - since there are no margins.

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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Post by devnullbyte »

I have had a few stints of trying out emacs. I used spacemacs, doom and rolled my own. It never gained any traction for me. I think the reason for this, is that the amount of time I would put into memorizing all the shortcuts and control / meta combinations, setting up all the lisp plugins (and then remembering their control key / meta combinations) is just not worth it for the time lost setting up and learning for the productivity gained. I am better to just use an IDE with all its bells and whistles and for general terminal work my old simple VIM set up easily does the job.

As far as org-mode, meh. I really don't see whats so amazing about collapsible to-do notes anymore. As for email, listening to music etc, I am sorry, but browsers do that job very well and with zero time needed to scour around blogs trying to get them to work.

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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Post by _mlxl »

IanCal wrote: post #158
_mlxl wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are missing the forest for the trees here - and I imagine that's by choice. I'm not saying emacs shines as an audit trail - I am saying the processes by which you work can be incorporated within emacs very easily, in a way that is unmatched. I can see why people tend to ignore questions around specificity of why they like emacs - the goalposts never stop moving.

> You are missing the forest for the trees here - and I imagine that's by choice. To flip this around, I'd say you're fascinated by the forest when someone else just needs a tree. I understand the excitement and the freedom you're describing. What I think you're missing is that if others don't see a need for what you're describing it not only doesn't sound useful but sounds like the tool is definitely not aimed at th…

Sorry but I entirely disagree with you here given the context - I am answering the question "Is there something substantial that Sublime users are missing?".

What I described is a substantial benefit of using emacs over sublime text.

If you are a programmer there are many benefits to total control over a system, and the ability to compose new functionality from a solid foundation of base functions. Now, you could happily use emacs forever without ever using that control, but the difference is with something like Sublime control you don't even have the freedom to make the choice as to whether you want to or not. It's out of your control, which is a downside when compared to emacs.

The OP wasn't asking why would anyone want control they were asking what are the benefits of emacs in comparison to sublime.

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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Post by b112 »

abnry wrote: post #102
jeppesen-io wrote: post #51

I wonder what the venn diagram looks like of those who enjoy the readability of this blog and use emacs

For want of a margin the kingdom was lost. I hate no margins and use the Goyo vim plugin to make my editing experience more pleasurable.

I am always looking for a better editing experience, who knows what I might be missing.

Yet, after visiting Goyo's github, reading the README, looking about, I still have zero idea what this plugin does.

How/what is made distraction free, by this plugin? How is vim distracting prior to its use?

A shout out to all, in a thread where the word umwelt is used... actually explain to others, what your code is actually for.

Not just some marketish, slogany statement such as "Distraction-free writing in Vim".

(Some might say, hey.. just look at the code. Naw. I have better things to do, than delve that far into a whim. I don't have the time. Literally, not to spend on all the quick looks I might take as such links. Say what your stuff is, people. Don't make it a mystery...)

Abnry, may I ask, what you use this plugin for?

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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Post by gopiandcode »

svnpenn wrote: post #37

Does anyone know of a small Emacs distribution? I would like to get into Emacs, but its hard to justify 114 MB: https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/emacs-26 Versus Vim 18 MB: https://github.com/vim/vim-win32-installer/releases

Good point, although it's also hard to justify Vim's 18MB vs Ed's 52K.

Look's like Vim is just too bloated for the modern minimalism focused user.

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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Post by neutronicus »

jonathanstrange wrote: post #159

Whenever there's an Emacs thread I feel really bad like an impostor, because I'm using Emacs daily for work and hobby for the past 15 years now and still only use only 5 to 10 functions regularly. Heck, I can't even remember the keyboard combo for getting help about a mode. When I have to install a new package, I use Melpa and copy&paste init code for the .emacs file from the web. If it doesn't work or breaks, I usua…

Look into Spacemacs - it addresses a lot of what you want.

It understands file extensions and automatically downloads curated sets of packages for what you're editing (no more arcane copying and pasting)

The key bindings are set up so that pressing the first part of a key chord brings up all the things the next part of the key chord could be in the mini buffer

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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Post by IanCal »

_mlxl wrote: post #164
IanCal wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You are missing the forest for the trees here - and I imagine that's by choice. To flip this around, I'd say you're fascinated by the forest when someone else just needs a tree. I understand the excitement and the freedom you're describing. What I think you're missing is that if others don't see a need for what you're describing it not only doesn't sound useful but sounds like the tool is definitely not aimed at th…

Sorry but I entirely disagree with you here given the context - I am answering the question "Is there something substantial that Sublime users are missing?". What I described is a substantial benefit of using emacs over sublime text. If you are a programmer there are many benefits to total control over a system, and the ability to compose new functionality from a solid foundation of base functions. Now, you could hap…

> What I described is a substantial benefit of using emacs over sublime text.

I think you're _assuming_ "more control" is a substantial benefit for them.

> The OP wasn't asking why would anyone want control they were asking what are the benefits of emacs in comparison to sublime.

Right, but if you don't see a strong use case for that control it isn't a benefit. The examples you gave were of changing the UI in a way I am not interested and a way of triggering emails and slack messages when I save a file which would be actively harmful.

Giving me the ability to do something I do not want to do is not beneficial. It's like telling me a car is better because it's so modifiable I can install a Margaritaville. That would be a bad change to me so it's not selling me on the benefit of this car.

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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Post by episode0x01 »

theodcr wrote: post #134
MichaelMoser123 wrote: post #112

there is an org mode for vim, how good is it? https://github.com/jceb/vim-orgmode (also i never understood why collapsible nested lists make such a big difference)

Not that great in my experience, good enough to read and navigate through org files, but lacks many features and has performance issues. vimwiki https://github.com/vimwiki/vimwiki is probably the best note-taking plugin for vim.

I've been using vimwiki daily for the past month after I saw it mentioned here on HN. It's really changed a lot and has replaced the method I had before that involved VScode markdown snippets. It's nice to be able to directly link between my diary / task lists and my general knowledge base that contains code snippets and information about my projects, etc.
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