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Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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I wonder what the venn diagram looks like of those who enjoy the readability of this blog and use emacs

Honestly at this point it is usually easier for me to read the raw org-mode source file in an emacs buffer than to wade through whatever random web rendering and author has picked when they export to html.

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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I don't use emacs. I use text files to organise myself but I use notepad++ to edit them. I have tried to learn emacs a couple of times but I am really unmotivated - don't see any case where it would help me. I am afraid I'm missing something.

Longtime (two-decade-ish) previous emacs user. I lived in it. I used it for literally everything - web browsing, mail, mp3 playing, etc.

> I am afraid I'm missing something.

You are not.

Nowadays I just use crappy little text editors for small notes and JetBrains IDEs for dev work.

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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post #75

I wonder what the venn diagram looks like of those who enjoy the readability of this blog and use emacs

It'd be hard to argue that it ISN'T "readable." Maybe some would think it's ugly (I don't), but objectively speaking it's ticking every "readability" box.

Legible might be a better word? The giant, viewport spanning, line-width mixed with dense line-height makes it harder on eye for some people, myself included.

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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post #37

Does anyone know of a small Emacs distribution? I would like to get into Emacs, but its hard to justify 114 MB: https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/emacs-26 Versus Vim 18 MB: https://github.com/vim/vim-win32-installer/releases

Red Dead Redemption 2 on PC is about 150,000 MB.

I have a little bit of difficulty justifying that on my SSD main drive.

114 MB for what is effectively an IDE for the long tail of programming languages is very easy to justify.

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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I use Notes mostly, because it's synced to my phone and I can paste images (usually screenshots) in it easily.

FWIW you can set up sync to phone pretty easily, Orgzly is a org-mode client for Mobile working surprisingly well, supporting dropbox and many other backends for sync, plus both Emacs and Orgzly support pasting images. As far as I'm concerned I've set up syncthing to sync my org files between my devices.

For Android, I've found using termux to install Emacs, and then keeping a Bluetooth keyboard in my car has come in useful for impromptu note taking sessions. Or knock out a quick blog post. I keep my org folder source controlled in a private repo in Azure DevOps, which makes syncing between my devices easy enough, and have it set up to continously deploy my blog to an AWS S3 bucket.

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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I don't use emacs. I use text files to organise myself but I use notepad++ to edit them. I have tried to learn emacs a couple of times but I am really unmotivated - don't see any case where it would help me. I am afraid I'm missing something.

Emacs is an enormous investment but every time I'm forced to use another editor or IDE I'm reminded how much it pays off. Fundamentally, all Emacs does is treat the whole world as text. Everything from that point forward is about giving you (or allowing you to build) tools to manipulate text in a way that is natural and powerful for you. This doesn't sound particularly earth-shaking, but it really is. Think of a lang…

> snarky sidebar, sorry: every editor and IDE has really good Vim key bindings, but terrible Emacs support. I used to feel bad about this until I realised it was a sign that Vim people clearly didn't use Vim that much, whereas Emacs people never leave Emacs

How could you emulate emacs? Just the keybinds would miss the point.

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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I don't use emacs. I use text files to organise myself but I use notepad++ to edit them. I have tried to learn emacs a couple of times but I am really unmotivated - don't see any case where it would help me. I am afraid I'm missing something.

I say this as an avid emacs user: Emacs has a real problem in that it's very powerful but the, let's say, spiritual leader of the project (Stallman) is so wildly divorced from the real world because of his personal choices that he really has no idea what makes a compelling UX vs what makes a complete mess of arcane incantations. On top of that, the documentation is only suitable as a reference for someone who already…

> If someone wrote an open source clone of Emacs that adopted some sane defaults, modern UI conventions, and dropped all the political BS it could be so much better.

Emacs does have sane defaults. Did you mean instead you want defaults that remind you of the defaults in other (younger) programs that people might be more familiar with? That can be useful to gain more users. But it doesn't require an Emacs "clone", just an Emacs package with the settings you want. This approach is actually pretty popular: many people use CUA mode, Evil or even a distribution like Doom or Spacemacs. There's no need to change Emacs just to change a few defaults.

There are also package that address the "modern UI conventions" part of your complaint too to some extent, and again, distributions like Doom and Spacemacs include some of these packages. (Personally I only care if UI is practical and efficient, not if it is modern, but I do understand that some people like modern UIs for their own sake.)

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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post #75

I wonder what the venn diagram looks like of those who enjoy the readability of this blog and use emacs

It'd be hard to argue that it ISN'T "readable." Maybe some would think it's ugly (I don't), but objectively speaking it's ticking every "readability" box.

On mobile it's very difficult to read because the font is too small and line width is too long, so I have to choose between squinting or scrolling back and forth and back and forth and.. (or use Firefox's reader mode). I don't mind plain text, but this site is several orders of magnitude harder to read than http://motherfuckingwebsite.com

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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post #75

I wonder what the venn diagram looks like of those who enjoy the readability of this blog and use emacs

It'd be hard to argue that it ISN'T "readable." Maybe some would think it's ugly (I don't), but objectively speaking it's ticking every "readability" box.

I'll admit my comment was snarky, but I'll say it has hard for me to read. I cant say exactly why, but I do have a knee-jerk reaction
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