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Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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Post by na85 »

saagarjha wrote: post #9
_ofdw wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I say this as an avid emacs user: Emacs has a real problem in that it's very powerful but the, let's say, spiritual leader of the project (Stallman) is so wildly divorced from the real world because of his personal choices that he really has no idea what makes a compelling UX vs what makes a complete mess of arcane incantations. On top of that, the documentation is only suitable as a reference for someone who already…

> so emacs is doomed to being a mediocre niche text editor with unrealized potential to become a household name Emacs is absolutely a household name, at least in the world of text editors…

I mean household name in the same class as MS Office.

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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Post by lgessler »

saagarjha wrote: post #9
_ofdw wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I say this as an avid emacs user: Emacs has a real problem in that it's very powerful but the, let's say, spiritual leader of the project (Stallman) is so wildly divorced from the real world because of his personal choices that he really has no idea what makes a compelling UX vs what makes a complete mess of arcane incantations. On top of that, the documentation is only suitable as a reference for someone who already…

> so emacs is doomed to being a mediocre niche text editor with unrealized potential to become a household name Emacs is absolutely a household name, at least in the world of text editors…

I'd venture that it's not among rank-and-file software developers, though.

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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Post by na85 »

lgessler wrote: post #10
_ofdw wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I say this as an avid emacs user: Emacs has a real problem in that it's very powerful but the, let's say, spiritual leader of the project (Stallman) is so wildly divorced from the real world because of his personal choices that he really has no idea what makes a compelling UX vs what makes a complete mess of arcane incantations. On top of that, the documentation is only suitable as a reference for someone who already…

> If someone wrote an open source clone of Emacs that adopted some sane defaults, modern UI conventions, and dropped all the political BS it could be so much better. Worthy of mention, of course, is Spacemacs[1], which made Emacs approachable to me, someone who hadn't used much beyond Notepad++ and Eclipse before then. [1]: https://www.spacemacs.org/

To me, the existence of spacemacs and doom and others are an indictment of Emacs' poor out of the box experience.

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

#14

Post by fwip »

na85 wrote: post #11
saagarjha wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> so emacs is doomed to being a mediocre niche text editor with unrealized potential to become a household name Emacs is absolutely a household name, at least in the world of text editors…

I mean household name in the same class as MS Office.

Are there any text editors that are? Maybe Notepad or Notes.app because they come preinstalled?

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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Post by Koshkin »

Rerarom wrote: post #2

I don't use emacs. I use text files to organise myself but I use notepad++ to edit them. I have tried to learn emacs a couple of times but I am really unmotivated - don't see any case where it would help me. I am afraid I'm missing something.

Emacs is just a different universe. You either learn to live in it or you don’t. That’s all there is to it.

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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Post by nsl73 »

lgessler wrote: post #12
saagarjha wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> so emacs is doomed to being a mediocre niche text editor with unrealized potential to become a household name Emacs is absolutely a household name, at least in the world of text editors…

I'd venture that it's not among rank-and-file software developers, though.

I’m a software developer, that commonly talks about software development with a diverse group of software developers.

I’ve never had a conversation with a software developer where they didn’t know what vim or emacs are.

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

#18

Post by sgillen »

lgessler wrote: post #12
saagarjha wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> so emacs is doomed to being a mediocre niche text editor with unrealized potential to become a household name Emacs is absolutely a household name, at least in the world of text editors…

I'd venture that it's not among rank-and-file software developers, though.

Really? I don't think I've ever met a software developer that didn't know what vim and emacs were.

Re: Life is 90% of my use cases for org-mode

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Post by lgessler »

nsl73 wrote: post #17
lgessler wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd venture that it's not among rank-and-file software developers, though.

I’m a software developer, that commonly talks about software development with a diverse group of software developers. I’ve never had a conversation with a software developer where they didn’t know what vim or emacs are.

I just suspect that people here on HN are coming from the upper portions of the software developer spectrum in terms of experience, aptitude, enthusiasm, and training--there are plenty of other people in the world who do software development but lack some of those things. For my own part, I graduated with a bachelors in computer science having only heard Emacs mentioned once in a course (at the beginning of the second course in the intro sequence) by a particularly enthusiastic professor, and I never heard anyone talking about Vim or Emacs at my first job, where everyone more or less had to work exclusively with Visual Studio and an in-house IDE.
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