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Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by Deimorz »

hadrien01 wrote: post #92
Deimorz wrote: post #83

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No it wasn't. Voat was originally "Whoaverse", a reddit clone that the developer created as a school project. He literally copy-pasted the HTML/CSS from Reddit and then started gradually rebuilding some of the backend in C#. You can see the original version in the internet archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20140427060403/http://whoaverse.c... He tried to get people to use it for a while, but since it was just a les…

I believe the first migration to Voat wasn't for a subreddit ban, but when upvote/downvote counts on comments became hidden

As the person that hid those upvote/downvote counts, I definitely remember that uproar well.

A relatively small group "migrated" for a few days, but didn't stay. Here's Whoaverse one month after the up/down counts were removed from Reddit (notice that they added visible vote counts, which they didn't have before): http://web.archive.org/web/20140718134533/http://whoaverse.c...

Other than the stickied site announcement, almost all of the posts only have a handful of votes and only a few have any comments.

The banned users were the first group that actually stuck around on Whoaverse/Voat, because they didn't have the option of just going back to Reddit.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by dbbljack »

MattGaiser wrote: post #18

How is this going to avoid becoming like Voat? Reddit already has competitors. It is just that they are cesspools as the only people who have a strong reason to leave reddit are those reddit has banned.

ezpz dont federate with racists

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by sampo »

strombofulous wrote: post #103
as1mov wrote: post #100

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Agreed, but at least reddit is unique in that it seems to get accused of being accused of both kinds of extremism, Tumble/Twitter/HN seem to think it's a right wing shithole, while the 4chan/Imageboard ilk thinks it's a leftie propaganda machine. That's not the case with the alternatives, most tend to go really hard on one side of the extremism scale (right: voat, left: raddle).

I can't imagine thinking reddit is right-wing in any way whatsoever. Just looking at the front page (/r/all) I counted five explicitly left-leaning posts (on subreddits like /r/whitepeopletwitter), three that alluded to left-leaning subjects in a positive way (such as a post on /r/atheism), and 0 posts that even came close to kind of sounding like it might have been right-leaning. And this doesn't even consider the c…

> /r/the_donald

They shut it down. 0 new posts for past 3 months.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by as1mov »

strombofulous wrote: post #103
as1mov wrote: post #100

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Agreed, but at least reddit is unique in that it seems to get accused of being accused of both kinds of extremism, Tumble/Twitter/HN seem to think it's a right wing shithole, while the 4chan/Imageboard ilk thinks it's a leftie propaganda machine. That's not the case with the alternatives, most tend to go really hard on one side of the extremism scale (right: voat, left: raddle).

I can't imagine thinking reddit is right-wing in any way whatsoever. Just looking at the front page (/r/all) I counted five explicitly left-leaning posts (on subreddits like /r/whitepeopletwitter), three that alluded to left-leaning subjects in a positive way (such as a post on /r/atheism), and 0 posts that even came close to kind of sounding like it might have been right-leaning. And this doesn't even consider the c…

I've observed the same thing honestly, most default + biggest subs are pretty left leaning. Though reddit does tend to host some right wing subs for which you have you go out of your way to find. There's also some old hate subs they removed few years back, people tend to get the perception of reddit from that time.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by stormdennis »

I'd like a "reddit" that wasn't a confusing mess to navigate on a browser on my phone and wasn't always trying to get me to use the app. It could do worse than take lessons from the design of HN. A separate HN clone for each subreddit.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by beervirus »

edw wrote: post #109
MattGaiser wrote: post #91

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There is poo on every surface. The key question is the amount of poo relative to the other stuff.

Here’s another question: Would any of our lives be any worse — or would they be better? — if we simply chose to walk away and not be a part of any of these platforms, HN included? How much of our lives is made up of karma whoring, level grinding, and falling into the " rel="nofollow">https://xkcd.com/386/> trap?

I learn stuff on HN every time I visit. Reddit is (somewhat) entertaining, but I don’t usually learn anything important there.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by rglullis »

judge2020 wrote: post #45
rglullis wrote: post #34

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It's federated, each instance would be a subreddit. Don't like a instances because it is run by a deplorable? Don't subscribe to it. Is a deplorable posting deplorable things on the instances you are subscribed to and trying to piss on your pool? Downvote/mute/ban them.

If i'm a redditor that looks at r/dankmemes and r/gifs all day, or a creator for those subreddits, I don't see why I would leave reddit for a competitor. Without these people coming from reddit, it'll have the same problem as voat where nobody is looking for - or even willing to try - alternatives unless they were rejected.

You know it's not an either/or proposition, right? You can still use reddit even if you also have an account at the competitor.

But anyway: if you are someone that only cares about looking at whatever BigCorp allows you to look, then sure, keep using reddit.

If you'd like to have some form of control over the content you value, create and would like to promote, then your best bet is to fight for alternatives to the current big centralized systems.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by aqme28 »

MattGaiser wrote: post #18

How is this going to avoid becoming like Voat? Reddit already has competitors. It is just that they are cesspools as the only people who have a strong reason to leave reddit are those reddit has banned.

Hilarious to make that comment on HackerNews. This site is undeniably a reddit competitor, but it doesn't feel like a cesspool to me.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by _8j50 »

judge2020 wrote: post #69
_8j50 wrote: post #27

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I have spoken about this many times on HN. It comes down to this: email is being used in many nefarious ways and it is an ancient protocol with many insecurities. Anonymous email works for a bit but then every service worth using starts banning the providers. Both reddit and HN prospered as a result of not requiring email, that should tell you a lot about how horrible it is. It's on the same level as social security…

The problem is always 'how do i allow this user to reset their password', or more 'how do i verifiably contact the user'/'how do i verify someone emailing support is who they say they are' - without email, it's completely on the user to know and remember their password, something a lot of people can't do (and most don't use a p/w manager). HN does fine here since it's a 'tech' community where the majority likely does…

If you choose to opt out of email then you also choose to opt out of email support and being able to reset passwords via email. Two factor auth solutions let you store a one time recovery code for example that you write down or store somewhere safe, that's one option if you care to support it but I wouldn't mind losing the email only features you mentioned either.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by Traster »

as1mov wrote: post #60

One thing that stands out to me is lemmy has public modlogs[1], this is a great feature in my opinion. Something that should be more common. Quite a few people on reddit are frustrated by how opaque moderation is, but looking at the meta community of power users that seems to mod the bigger subs, I doubt the devs will ever copy this feature. [1]: https://dev.lemmy.ml/modlog

The entire moderation aspect of reddit is a disaster that only goes un-examined because there's so many other glaring issues with reddit. You can piss off a random guy with no affiliation or responsibility towards reddit and get banned from basically 90+% of reddit's content.
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