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Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#43

How is this going to avoid becoming like Voat? Reddit already has competitors. It is just that they are cesspools as the only people who have a strong reason to leave reddit are those reddit has banned.

Voat was created intentionally and specifically for the (mostly far-right) trolls too unsavory for Reddit. So, if Lemmy is not that, it'll have a head start.

This seems to be the outcome of all of these Reddit clones, even the ones made with the best of intentions.

Take for instance Ruqqus, another site created as a free speech reddit alternative. It consistently has horrifying content on the front page regularly; viciously racist content, anti-Semitic memes, unironic pro-Nazism/pro-genocide discussion posts, and generally terrible content. This is likely because it is exactly this content that is being "censored" from Reddit, not these harmless free speech advocates who are silenced by a big company.

Can anyone actually tell me what valuable discussion is being censored on Twitter, Reddit, etc? Banning this type of content is mandatory if you want a platform that is safe and available for trans people, Jews, gay people, women, etc.

People shouldn't have to tolerate people @ing them with slurs, be exposed to "reasoned" arguments for their extermination, or memes dehumanizing them for the sake of "free speech."

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#44

How is this going to avoid becoming like Voat? Reddit already has competitors. It is just that they are cesspools as the only people who have a strong reason to leave reddit are those reddit has banned.

It's federated, each instance would be a subreddit. Don't like a instances because it is run by a deplorable? Don't subscribe to it. Is a deplorable posting deplorable things on the instances you are subscribed to and trying to piss on your pool? Downvote/mute/ban them.

> Don't like a instances because it is run by a deplorable? Don't subscribe to it.

How is that different from how Reddit/Voat currently are?

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#45

How is this going to avoid becoming like Voat? Reddit already has competitors. It is just that they are cesspools as the only people who have a strong reason to leave reddit are those reddit has banned.

It's federated, each instance would be a subreddit. Don't like a instances because it is run by a deplorable? Don't subscribe to it. Is a deplorable posting deplorable things on the instances you are subscribed to and trying to piss on your pool? Downvote/mute/ban them.

If i'm a redditor that looks at r/dankmemes and r/gifs all day, or a creator for those subreddits, I don't see why I would leave reddit for a competitor. Without these people coming from reddit, it'll have the same problem as voat where nobody is looking for - or even willing to try - alternatives unless they were rejected.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#46

How is this going to avoid becoming like Voat? Reddit already has competitors. It is just that they are cesspools as the only people who have a strong reason to leave reddit are those reddit has banned.

Voat explicitly branded itself like that.

In comparison, a large source of Fediverse users (Mastodon etc) are people that leave Twitter because they think it isn't moderated well enough.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#47
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Sorry, don't like the name. Also, when you say a reddit alternative, to me it gives the impression that the redditor culture will remain so why would I sacrifice the content rich reddit for a new platform? Federation doesn't mean much to me as a user that justs wants [social]entertainment and news (and commentary on them). There's only one thing that can change my mind a little: if you guarantee email is not and will…

> There's only one thing that can change my mind a little: if you guarantee email is not and will never be required to sign up or use a feature. Why is this so important? You can just use any temp email service to sign up and never deal with it again.

You cannot after a while. You have to rely on that service not being blocked for registration and i would also need the anonymous email service to not require email,cc payments or phone number. Either way, they dont need email to provide a service and the karma/voting system stops bots. If I can easily register anonymous email and signup,so can bots so whats the point? To make me jump over many hoops and hope i make a mistake? Just to prove a point ? Make privacy a difficult task so normal people wont bother and leak enough info to be used against them? No thanks, you don't have my support.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#48

How is this going to avoid becoming like Voat? Reddit already has competitors. It is just that they are cesspools as the only people who have a strong reason to leave reddit are those reddit has banned.

It's federated, each instance would be a subreddit. Don't like a instances because it is run by a deplorable? Don't subscribe to it. Is a deplorable posting deplorable things on the instances you are subscribed to and trying to piss on your pool? Downvote/mute/ban them.

how is this different from reddit governance where subreddits are already responsible for self-moderation? I don't think a lot of users care whether the instances are technically separated, in the case of Mastodon this is probably what stops people from using it because it's not intuitive to understand.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Voat was created intentionally and specifically for the (mostly far-right) trolls too unsavory for Reddit. So, if Lemmy is not that, it'll have a head start.

This seems to be the outcome of all of these Reddit clones, even the ones made with the best of intentions. Take for instance Ruqqus, another site created as a free speech reddit alternative. It consistently has horrifying content on the front page regularly; viciously racist content, anti-Semitic memes, unironic pro-Nazism/pro-genocide discussion posts, and generally terrible content. This is likely because it is ex…

Why do you assume that all alternatives have to be "free speech = allowing abuse" alternatives?

E.g. a large subset of Fediverse (Mastodon etc) communities are communities that avoid Twitter because they don't feel Twitter is doing enough to be safe for them. And instances have a varying policies about how they handle instances with different moderation standards.

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