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Carving out a niche as a small artist on Spotify

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Re: Carving out a niche as a small artist on Spotify

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Post by mathisonturing »

strbean wrote: post #99
kleer001 wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Youtube suffers from the same bias in their algorithm. I bet it's just a bias setting or a single falloff that would help things. It reminds me of Cronenberg's "The Fly" where Brundle had to teach his teleporting pod to reproduce living tissue rather than interpret it.

At least with Youtube, you can go through your watch history and delete videos, which makes it as if you never watched it as far as recommendations are concerned.

You can also reject a recommendation. Click on the Options button for that video (three vertical dots), select "Not interested"

Re: Carving out a niche as a small artist on Spotify

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Post by Kye »

hanniabu wrote: post #52
volkk wrote: post #34

Spotify's discovery playlist is a double edged sword. My account is permanently screwed because I decided to listen to a lot of rain sounds when going to sleep for a few months while I had a puppy. Now ALL I get for recommendations are calm sounds. I don't actually listen to these during the day, I want my old stuff. I hate it and want to reset the discovery playlist, but seems I have no way of doing so aside from ge…

One more reason why I prefer Google Play. The recommendations are based off a single station. If you start a new station it starts from scratch.

You can do this on Spotify if you start a radio station from a playlist.

Right click -> Go to playlist radio

Re: Carving out a niche as a small artist on Spotify

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Post by m3kw9 »

vannevar wrote: post #103

It's an interesting article, but the essential information is buried in the middle: In my experience, it’s only when I get on an editorial playlist that my songs get heavily featured on algorithmic playlists like Discover Weekly. So how do you get on editorial playlists? I sincerely have no clue. I've been on editorial playlists 16 times but I have no idea how to replicate that. I find that this is true of many of th…

A bit of luck is always needed

Re: Carving out a niche as a small artist on Spotify

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Post by VBprogrammer »

vannevar wrote: post #103

It's an interesting article, but the essential information is buried in the middle: In my experience, it’s only when I get on an editorial playlist that my songs get heavily featured on algorithmic playlists like Discover Weekly. So how do you get on editorial playlists? I sincerely have no clue. I've been on editorial playlists 16 times but I have no idea how to replicate that. I find that this is true of many of th…

Another thing I found interesting is that he earns $800 / month from a total of about 3 million listens. I wonder how this compares to the royalties from a radio play from a popular local radio station?

Comparatively, my dad has a moderately successful youtube channel, his most popular video has 18m views, and the next 3m. He has 66k subscribers. In an average month he'd earn ~£300 or so. Though usually quite a lot more around Christmas.

Re: Carving out a niche as a small artist on Spotify

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Post by NoodleIncident »

mathisonturing wrote: post #131
strbean wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least with Youtube, you can go through your watch history and delete videos, which makes it as if you never watched it as far as recommendations are concerned.

You can also reject a recommendation. Click on the Options button for that video (three vertical dots), select "Not interested"

Removing the source of the recommendation from your history works a lot more reliably. Sometimes the "Not interested" button will allow you to say "I don't want recommendations based on videos", but they're in denial about how that's the only thing their recommendation engine does, so the option isn't always there.

Re: Carving out a niche as a small artist on Spotify

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Post by StavrosK »

influnza wrote: post #127
faramarz wrote: post #68

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LOL! Same shoe; I cannot escape the piano and other instrumentals I played during my wife's pregnancy months. I'm almost at a point of surrender that maybe my time with Deep House and Electronic music has reached an end. The Discovery Weekly was my only way of finding hot indie talent in the electronics world.

Have you tried Bandcamp?

Bandcamp is just fantastic in general, seconded.

Re: Carving out a niche as a small artist on Spotify

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Post by [deleted] »

haywirez wrote: post #119

Note that this is all applies only to easy listening music suitable for the background (I checked the author's playlist at the end). Not something emotionally intense or overly energetic that demands your full attention. Spotify is optimizing for muzak, and artists who thrive in this ecosystem are muzak. I could (and soon will) go deeper to prove my point, but Liz Pelly already did a lion-hearted job covering the pro…

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Re: Carving out a niche as a small artist on Spotify

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Post by dawnerd »

njovin wrote: post #40
volkk wrote: post #34

Spotify's discovery playlist is a double edged sword. My account is permanently screwed because I decided to listen to a lot of rain sounds when going to sleep for a few months while I had a puppy. Now ALL I get for recommendations are calm sounds. I don't actually listen to these during the day, I want my old stuff. I hate it and want to reset the discovery playlist, but seems I have no way of doing so aside from ge…

This is unfortunately a common problem and the only way to beat the algorithm is to turn it against itself. Create few playlists and add songs you like to them and also be diligent about liking and unliking songs. These will heavily influence your recommendations and you should be able to get back on track.

Spotify needs to enable dislike on any song playing, not just in discovery playlists.

Re: Carving out a niche as a small artist on Spotify

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Post by nicky0 »

iamstupidsimple wrote: post #111
daxelrod wrote: post #98

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This exists. It's called "Private listening". https://support.spotify.com/us/using_spotify/features/how-to...

As opposed to public listening? This whole feature is named after a Freudian slip.

Yes, normally what you listen to get put up on a feed to your "friends" in the app.
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