if only they'd do this for apps accessing the microphone, or do the same thing as they do with the camera making the application visibly request access
iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents every few keystrokes
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#592Earlier quoted context omitted.
People love to hate on Apple but the fact is, they continue to release features to better showcase or restrict developers that abuse your privacy. The "walled garden" also ensures they apply a ton of checks to apps to better restrict abuses. Sometimes it's overly sensitive and bad things happen, but in general it's awesome that over time it becomes harder and harder to get away with apps blatantly spying on you.
How is that Apple didn't catch TikTok doing this way way earlier to give them some sort of penalty.
Maybe because a lot of Apps are doing that and it's not a special bevaviour of TikTok
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#593Zoom, WeChat, Weibo has all been exposed of sending users' data back to Chinese servers. Why would TikTok be different? It's already alarming enough that a Chinese social media app is at the top of the App Store.
People need to learn to stop trusting these apps.
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#594It does make me wonder how many apps on Android also do this and go completely undetected. Hopefully Google adds something similar.
In my Android 10 phone, if I copy a piece of text that looks like an address and open Google Maps, Google Maps will immediately offer the copied text as a search option. Google Maps doesn't do this if I copied, say, some random numbers. I'm not sure how the Google Maps app can do this without snooping at my clipboard.
I'm pretty sure that's the OS itself analysing the highlighted text and offering suggestions on which app to open it with.
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Yes they do. People who value the curation of their photos will take the time to do it. I create an album for any event etc. which I expect I'll want to photograph. It's easier to share and re-share the same set of photos, and it acts like a log of cool stuff. Also, I don't have to scroll through months of memes to get to that one good photo I took in July 2017... or was it August..... maybe it was 2016......... shit…
> People who value the curation of their photos will take the time to do it. Sounds like only something people who aren’t stressed from their underpaid jobs can do? Most people are kept busy and don’t have time to fit into this dark (corporate app) pattern.
If you're underpaid you should probably ask yourself if you need an expensive smartphone...
Plenty of people use photography as an escape from their work stress. I just don't understand what your point is.
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How, exactly, are they abusing it? Are you suggesting that they send the contents of the clipboard back to their servers? Do you have any proof that they are using the clipboard for nefarious purposes? It’s disappointing to see the lack of skepticism applied on a site like Hacker News.
What's a legitimate, non-nefarious reason for an app to do that?
Some apps detect if you have a 2FA auth code copied and auto-pastes it. I think Discord might be one? I can't remember which, but I've seen it on at least one app.
I can totally expect others to detect copied URLs that may belong to the app's domain and then offer to direct you to that particular URL (for example, I think the SomethingAwful app on iOS does that - if it detects a forums.somethingawful address it'll offer to load that particular thread for you).
That said, I definitely want to see more visibility about when and why this is done. Apple are absolutely in the right to show me a popup whenever it happens, so apps are forced to be clear and transparent about it.
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#597Earlier quoted context omitted.
People love to hate on Apple but the fact is, they continue to release features to better showcase or restrict developers that abuse your privacy. The "walled garden" also ensures they apply a ton of checks to apps to better restrict abuses. Sometimes it's overly sensitive and bad things happen, but in general it's awesome that over time it becomes harder and harder to get away with apps blatantly spying on you.
Why not give user the option to chose another app store? There could be many stores like in Ubuntu.
Because 30% cut from every app is worth squeezin$.
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I am certainly happy about the steady pro-privacy process. I personally consider Apple full of shit until two features are released: 1. Contact sharing needs a complete overhaul. Some apps need to have access to my contacts. I get this. But they only need the name and the phone number. They don’t need addresses, birthdays and additional notes I put in m contacts. Sure, I could have a separate contacts app with "meta…
Add Background App Refresh to this please - considering that apps exfiltrate 4G/WiFi connectivity info (helpful to triangulate your current location) regularly to tracker/analytics scum APIs with this feature - it should be exposed as a Privacy setting, not buried in Settings. I don’t understand what’s hard about this for Apple to be eerily silent on this.
Background App Refresh also has a significant battery life impact. I keep mine disabled and get a significant battery life increase with little downside.
The feature should be a per-app opt-in instead of being enabled by default and buried in settings.
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#599Earlier quoted context omitted.
People love to hate on Apple but the fact is, they continue to release features to better showcase or restrict developers that abuse your privacy. The "walled garden" also ensures they apply a ton of checks to apps to better restrict abuses. Sometimes it's overly sensitive and bad things happen, but in general it's awesome that over time it becomes harder and harder to get away with apps blatantly spying on you.
I am certainly happy about the steady pro-privacy process. I personally consider Apple full of shit until two features are released: 1. Contact sharing needs a complete overhaul. Some apps need to have access to my contacts. I get this. But they only need the name and the phone number. They don’t need addresses, birthdays and additional notes I put in m contacts. Sure, I could have a separate contacts app with "meta…
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There's nothing to be gained by trusting a large corporation. By defending user privacy, Apple is able to have a direct affect on the bottom line of its rival corporations. All corporations behave according to incentives that will help they to progress further than their competitors. If they don't rival coporations will take the lead.
So should why should I trust anyone ? The crux of these arguments is essentially anti-capitalism. That’s fine. But be upfront about it. There is a debate to be had around the ethics of privacy in a capitalist free market economy. In this instance, for me at least, Apple is the devil I know. Your point around trusting corporations is totally valid, but I’ve yet to see a similarly valid argument for trusting open sourc…
Conceptually, trust suggests we don't need to question, or exercise due diligence. I'd argue, in a capitalist system, you definitely shouldn't trust anyone! Capitalism is based on incentive.
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So following on from this. Is the crux of these arguments anti-capitalist?
No .. it's not anti-capitalism. It's realistic. Even more realistic if you believe in a capitalism system and want to compete.
I feel that capitalism works most successfully when it provides more people with a better quality of life.
Fundamentally, there are conceptual problems with a capitalist system .. factors that lead to scenarios that are likely to lead to the system operating sub-optimally.
An example of a problem; if a corporation is allowed to grow without limit, how can new companies realistically compete?
The remedy? I guess it's up for discussion. But I think regulation can prevent the worst form occurring, and many markets have measures in place to carry out this type of regulation.
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Why am I saying this?
Because I feel that open-source is simply a remedy to a conceptual problem that exists within our capitalist economy. It is not antithetical to capitalism.
Namely, the question it serves to answer is; how do we balance the power provided by digital technologies with the incentive companies have to exploit these powers for commercial gain?
Open-source is a logical answer to this. You could argue, we don't have the tools available to highlight any injustices contained in a code-base. My answer would be .. that doesn't mean we conceptually couldn't or won't in the future.
Closed source is a conceptual dead end - and won't lead to a better future.