Verizon suspends advertising on Facebook, joins growing boycott

Post by jimbob45 » Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 12:20 AM UTC

Barrin92 wrote: post #62

jimbob45 wrote: post #43

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How does that work with FB? Let’s say you have a German politician with a subreddit about him. Does that not count as advertising? I’m genuinely curious because I’m certain your country has at least considered this scenario.

Up until now there hasn't really been laws addressing social media which falls outside of what is considered "Rundfunk" (basically television and radio mainly), but over the last year or two a lot of people have started demanding to apply the existing laws to social media as well. I think at the moment they're only required to label paid political ads. Culturally though it has a greatly diminished role. If I remember…

Post by steveeq1 » Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 12:23 AM UTC

seppin wrote: post #74

cwhiz wrote: post #41

We want Facebook to censor speech on Facebook! But oh not all speech just some speech that we don’t like. Only we are allowed to define the type of speech we don’t like. And we reserve the right to change at any time. So, please just censor speech that we don’t like. On this day. At this hour. At this minute. And next minute we’ll tell you what to censor next.

Speech that leads to violence, how about starting with that?

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 12:24 AM UTC

rectang wrote: post #26

forbiddenvoid wrote: post #18

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I don't fault Verizon for cutting budget. It's absolutely the right thing to do. But if we weren't in the situation we're in they probably wouldn't be doing this. The nuance between "we're going to stop doing business with Facebook because Facebook is bad" and "we have to cut budget from advertising and we chose to cut it from Facebook because Facebook is bad" is important. It's convenient to do this now, but hard to…

Why is it impossible that Verizon is responding, at least in part, to public pressure against Facebook?

Post by jchook » Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 12:25 AM UTC

rectang wrote: post #26

forbiddenvoid wrote: post #18

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I don't fault Verizon for cutting budget. It's absolutely the right thing to do. But if we weren't in the situation we're in they probably wouldn't be doing this. The nuance between "we're going to stop doing business with Facebook because Facebook is bad" and "we have to cut budget from advertising and we chose to cut it from Facebook because Facebook is bad" is important. It's convenient to do this now, but hard to…

Why is it impossible that Verizon is responding, at least in part, to public pressure against Facebook?

Post by OpieCunningham » Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 12:27 AM UTC

throwawaysea wrote: post #64

OpieCunningham wrote: post #49

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“Time is money” is a cliche, not a fact. There are plenty of people who have lots of money but didn’t spend commensurate time getting it, as there are plenty of people who spend inordinate amounts of time making little money.

Sure. You can earn more money per unit of time by creating greater value for others. But my point is that saying "political spending is bad" doesn't make sense. Everyone is expending unequal efforts in different facets of their life. If I am busy keeping my small business afloat and can't afford to put in the kind of time a dedicated activist puts into organizing, I think I should still be able to use what resources…