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The largest city in each 10x10 degree latitude/longitude box

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Re: The largest city in each 10x10 degree latitude/longitude box

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I quibble with the description of the shapes bounded by 10 degrees of longitude and latitude as "rectangles" - they're not even planar shapes, and their adjacent sides certainly aren't at right angles. Some of them don't even have four sides. This bears considering when looking at the map, because some of those regions are much, much smaller than others.

But they are rectangles on the projection - they just aren't rectangles if you map the projection back onto the globe.

Re: The largest city in each 10x10 degree latitude/longitude box

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That's handy! To be honest, SPARQL is definitely not easy to use.

I have worked with SPARQL professionally. The biggest problem: Quality if the data. Yes it is amazing, but if stuff is missing annotations, it is hard to get meaningful results.

This was my experience also. It's bad enough that it's effectively useless and requires extensive validation.

Re: The largest city in each 10x10 degree latitude/longitude box

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Niue isn't a city (nor village). It's a country.

Ah, the famous country which has Pokemon, Disney, Star Wars etc. characters embossed at their national currency coins [1].

[1] https://www.procaffenation.com/niue-currency-cartoon-coins/

Re: The largest city in each 10x10 degree latitude/longitude box

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It’s not particularly biased to say that New York is larger than Toronto, in my opinion.

I think the OP got confused - as I did - on the position of Toronto on the lakes. We both didn’t realize that Toronto is in the same box as New York.

I’m not confused. That’s my point. That Toronto is a big city and the rules defining how this map gets symbolized makes it invisible.

Re: The largest city in each 10x10 degree latitude/longitude box

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Isn't that the point of the map (show the most populous city in each box?) Or you didn't get what the map is trying to do?

I suspect the point is that decisions are made whenever a map is constructed, and those decisions can produce wildly different views of the world. While some of those decisions are in some sense objective (e.g. the equator being 0 degrees latitude), others are purely arbitrary or historical (e.g. the definition of 0 degrees longitude). If that meridian had a different definition, the results would be quite different.…

Thanks. You did a better job explaining this than I.

Re: The largest city in each 10x10 degree latitude/longitude box

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Jacksonville is the largest U.S. city by area, in the contiguous 48 states. Alaska has several cities with enormous boundaries. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...

yes that's exactly what I'm referring to as the problem - the city limits are arbitrary administrative lines. What would not be counted in atlanta as simply part of the suburb would be counted towards the population of jacksonville because the boundaries just happen to be huge, which means jacksonville ends up larger than atlanta, even though more people are in the atlanta metro area and would call themselves as peop…

As you get near the outskirts of a city, where you live starts to depend on who you're talking to. I live in Gig Harbor, Washington, which is about 20 minutes from Tacoma, which is itself about half an hour from Seattle. If I was talking to someone else from the area, I'd never claim to live in Seattle. But if I'm talking to someone from out of state, then yeah, sure, I'm from Seattle.

Re: The largest city in each 10x10 degree latitude/longitude box

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Lol. Some of the Australian towns are rather small, showing how sparse our population is: Leonara: 2,476 Geraldton: 37,000 Mackay: 80,000

Google gives Leonora pop 556, which to me is much more believable. There's nothing for 2k folk to do in Leonora.

Re: The largest city in each 10x10 degree latitude/longitude box

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I quibble with the description of the shapes bounded by 10 degrees of longitude and latitude as "rectangles" - they're not even planar shapes, and their adjacent sides certainly aren't at right angles. Some of them don't even have four sides. This bears considering when looking at the map, because some of those regions are much, much smaller than others.

> their adjacent sides certainly aren't at right angles They certainly are. Parallels and meridians always meet at 90 degrees. https://www.geogebra.org/m/kNtNZzsS

Thankyou for the correction.

Re: The largest city in each 10x10 degree latitude/longitude box

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A lot of comments about metros areas and the like, such as how Jacksonville shows up because of city limits being larger than atlanta, but if you start getting I to trying to define what a city's metro area is, you run into a lot of issues with giant powerful cities like NY. Can you really count the population of Newark, New Jersey as part of NYC, NY? Even though newark is firmly within the NYC metro area, it's a sep…

One way to work around the arbitrariness of city limits would be to only count the population living within a fixed distance of the city center. I would suggest 5 or 6 km, which is approximately the distance that your can comfortably walk in 1 hour, and also (perhaps not coincidentally) the approximate radius of Paris. This would get you a list of dense cities, which is probably what people are imagining when they th…

Not all cities have centers and some cities have multiple different centers that are quite far away from each other depending on what criterion you use.
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