Wikileaks is just a Russian propaganda unit disguised as wind of change.
Julian Assange charged in superseding indictment
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Re: Julian Assange charged in superseding indictment
#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ugh, don't make me do this: Selectively releasing documents is not the same as releasing something later proven to be false, which is what the GP asserted. FWIW you could play devils advocate here and say that wikileaks could not independently verify the omitted things; but I'm not going to go there because it's conjecture. Just as your suggestion that it's collusion with Russia, however likely, is also conjecture.
Assange asking Guccifer 2.0 for Hillary leaks: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dt6BBwBXcAEL-Fj?format=jpg&name=... Assange helping Guccifer 2.0 distribute manipulated Hillary leaks: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/764256561539735552 How the leaks were taken from other sources and manipulated: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qkjevd/guccifer-2-is-bull... >Guccifer 2.0 — believed to be a misinformation campaign oper…
Telling that you're spewing this from a throwaway.
Re: Julian Assange charged in superseding indictment
#233Whatever your opinion of Assange is, make no mistake that actual criminals he released info on are still walking free, including war criminals killing civilians and reporters, because the U.S. government does not want them prosecuted.
Re: Julian Assange charged in superseding indictment
#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
I too am shocked that Wikileaks would publish tabloidish material with little public value. Next thing you know, I'll hear that Wikileaks posted private emails of a government official talking about pizza. Emails which spawned ridiculous conspiracies about satanic child abuse cults headquartered in the basement of a pizza shop that doesn't have a basement. That would never happen. Not at an august, hard-hitting journ…
Still waiting for a valid explanation of what pizza is code for because they certainly aren’t talking about pizza the food in those emails.
Drugs maybe?
Re: Julian Assange charged in superseding indictment
#235> In 2012, Assange communicated directly with a leader of the hacking group LulzSec (who by then was cooperating with the FBI), and provided a list of targets for LulzSec to hack. With respect to one target, Assange asked the LulzSec leader to look for (and provide to WikiLeaks) mail and documents, databases and pdfs. In another communication, Assange told the LulzSec leader that the most impactful release of hacked…
I'm generally on Assange's side in all of this. I agree he shouldn't be charged and this is all a disgrace. Having said that, I once went to wikileaks and found a PDF of Steve Job's supposed STD test which claimed he was HIV positive. That was a surprise to me as my understanding was that he died of cancer. I looked into it and no one could corroborate the story and the general consensus seemed to be that it was fake…
I'm generally against Assange on all of this. Hacking is an illegal activity that results in the disclosure of information that the hacker does not own. This is theft of information and a federal offense. Anyone engaging is nefarious hacking should be jailed, if caught, and never allowed to use technology again. We have very lax laws when it comes to hacking - they need to be stronger.
Re: Julian Assange charged in superseding indictment
#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not sure I understand your point, he is not being indicted for publishing false information. Assuming he never did, why would that make the charges bullshit?
I'm not saying his record means the charges are bullshit, but I'm saying if the charges are bullshit and his record is infallible then the implication is that we live under a government without freedom of the press, where truthful hard-hitting journalism gets you put in prison. If you don't believe that Assange has done truthful hard-hitting journalism, or you believe that he isn't a journalist at all, then you can m…
To be fair, true journalists don’t host shows on RT.
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also important to remember: the supposed "rape charges" turned out to have been fabricated by the swedish police. There never was an actual rape accusation against him.
If you're going to make such grand accusations against the Swedish police then at least cite a damn source. With all the baseless claims this thread almost reads like /r/conspiracy ffs.
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Re: Julian Assange charged in superseding indictment
#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not sure I understand your point, he is not being indicted for publishing false information. Assuming he never did, why would that make the charges bullshit?
I'm not saying his record means the charges are bullshit, but I'm saying if the charges are bullshit and his record is infallible then the implication is that we live under a government without freedom of the press, where truthful hard-hitting journalism gets you put in prison. If you don't believe that Assange has done truthful hard-hitting journalism, or you believe that he isn't a journalist at all, then you can m…
Freedom of the Press doesn't give you carte blanche to disclose state secrets without repercussions. Just because the information is hard hitting doesn't give you a pass on the crimes you committed to get it.
Re: Julian Assange charged in superseding indictment
#239Wikileaks is just a Russian propaganda unit disguised as wind of change.
Interesting that Russia would publish self incriminating documents and evidence of their own malfeasance within Ukraine and corruption elsewhere. Really makes you think.
Re: Julian Assange charged in superseding indictment
#240Let's not forget that the Obama administration refused to prosecute Assange because they couldn't find a way to do it that wouldn't criminalize ordinary journalism (talking to sources, encouraging them to give you more info, telling them how to stay safe). The current administration is perusing this case precisely because they would like the power to criminalize investigative journalism, the only kind that's actually…
Also remember Julian Assange promised to turn himself in if Chelsea Manning was granted clemency. Obama commuted Manning's sentence towards the end of his second term and Assange immediately backtracked.
https://thenextweb.com/world/2017/01/18/assange-backtracks-o...