TBF, Pilots not being qualified to fly commercially happens elsewhere too [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_English_Channel_Piper_PA-...
Does it happen at a rate of 30% of pilots not even taking the certification test elsewhere?
Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
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Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#42Start at the 4 minute mark here: https://youtu.be/oUOn6FrDPwg?t=240 Infuriating series of events. It's not simply a matter of pilot error, it's criminal negligence.
There's an updated video from the same channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO5rXxJRmf4 I'd start at 4:50.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO5rXxJRmf4&t=4m50s
(If you don't remember how to add the time, you can use https://youtubetime.com/ )
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#43The use of the word “fake” is misleading, they seem to mean genuine certificates issued illegally, not downright Photoshop’d documents.
Right, I think "fraudulent" would be a more accurate word.
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#44The use of the word “fake” is misleading, they seem to mean genuine certificates issued illegally, not downright Photoshop’d documents.
I disagree. Paying someone else to take an exam in one's place definitely makes the resulting license fake, and definitely makes it not genuine. They just used a different process than Photoshop to produce the false document. Semantics. I must disclose that English is not my first language.
Pilots were fake licenses were genuine
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#45The fact that the landing gear lever was pushed down into the extended position, and then the plane decided not to deploy the landing gear because of the overspeed issue is a horrible UI.
The lever should refuse to budge unless moving it will in fact deploy the landing gear. These pilots are horrible, but that doesn't mean we can't improve the controls still.
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#46On a smaller but more widespread scale is the issue of fake licenses for driving automobiles. It is common knowledge how you can get these licenses easily in "some" (similar) countries without ever giving a driving test and/or going through any sort of written exam where you have to go through the rules of the road. Some argue that they are only endangering their own lives on the road but one can see how that is comp…
Adding big hoops to jump through and lots of ways to lose the ability to legally do something that is more or less required to be a functioning member of society in many places does not seem wise to me. People wouldn't be breaking the law in order to drive if being able to drive wasn't a really big deal.
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#47On a smaller but more widespread scale is the issue of fake licenses for driving automobiles. It is common knowledge how you can get these licenses easily in "some" (similar) countries without ever giving a driving test and/or going through any sort of written exam where you have to go through the rules of the road. Some argue that they are only endangering their own lives on the road but one can see how that is comp…
They would also have strong motivation to never bother to get training or a license.
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#48TBF, Pilots not being qualified to fly commercially happens elsewhere too [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_English_Channel_Piper_PA-...
An single improperly licensed/underlicensed pilot in a small commercial business is vastly different than 30% of a nation's pilots, including major commercial airlines.
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#49I'm genuinely, in a completely non-judgmental way, interested to understand what systemic forces lead to such a staggeringly high percentage of this brand of fraud.
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Alaska the state or Alaska Airlines?
Commercial pilot license is required for any pilot looking to fly for a business operating aircraft for a profit.
This gets frequently abused in the US. Some of the abuse seems trivial on the surface - for example a friend can't legally pay you to fly him to a meeting far enough away to make driving undesirable on a clear pleasant day, even though you both frequently fly together personally on the weekends. However, there's no legal surprises on the FAA regulations and no excuse that a pilot can make that it seemed ok, as the regulations are quite clear that any compensation of any kind is illegal without holding a commercial certificate.