Except your apps are all built using SDKs that sell your data to the highest bidder and even if that can be mitigated, your cell company is doing the same thing on the network level.
They just brought back the illusion of control.
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#132I used work for Symbian. The OS itself was great at the time (it's open sourced somewhere), and got security correct (I don't recall 'privacy' ever being an explicit goal) but it was an absolute bitch to develop for. It had its own dialect of C++ which looks nothing like modern C++, the learning curve was huge. It tried really hard to have an app ecosystem but it was nothing like what google and apple have today. Net…
From the inside it wasn't that apparent, hence why the first Linux based prototypes did not had any radio support. And as cumbersome as Symbian C++ might have been, Android Studio + NDK + JNI wrappers still make me wish for Carbide + Symbian C++ + PIPS.
Android studio and jni dev is pretty trivial TBH. It even builds the boilerplate for you
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have two Nokia N9's (running Meego) at home still. I used N9 as my daily driver until about 3 years ago. The failure of that magnificent OS, combined with the failure of the successor (Jolla / Sailfish) still annoys me.
Sailfish is still around and is still getting upgrades every quarter with new features and improvements. Android support is actually pretty good and I use it for my daily driver. It's not a success but it hasn't been a failure IMO.
I still have both N9 and Jolla. I really loved my N9 and was excited about Sailfish, but as soon as I got my Jolla it was clear to me that it'll be a dead end. I did use it for a couple of weeks, but it absolutely missed the mark on why N9 was so loved.
I understand that you can't just straight up copy the functional and beautiful UI from N9, but Sailfish the Sailfish UI was just way too experimental and bare.
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
They adopted C++ very early on in the language's life. The standard at the time had not even specified how exceptions worked, so Symbian rolled their own (TRAP and User::Leave). But then they were stuck... breaking ABI was forbidden, so more modern C++ features couldn't be used (easily).
C++ was created in 1979 - I doubt Symbian adopted it "very early". Also, the standard doesn't specify "how exceptions work" even today, in the sense that a lot of what happens when running C++ is implementation dependent. But I can see what you mean about sticking to pre-C++11 (maybe even pre-C++98 ?) APIs.
In 1998 c++ was a totally different ballgame to c++ in 2010 let alone now
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#135When I moved from the UK to the US in early 2006 I lost my Symbian-running 6680 Nokia, because it couldn't be ported over, it was locked to a UK network and they refused to unlock it. I loved Symbian at the time, losing it took me back to the dark ages. In the UK I'd had my Nokia 6680 with front and rear cameras, unlimited 3G, multi-tasking apps, a proper web browser, the ability to install apps, and even some crap a…
To be fair, it was possible to buy Windows, Palm, and Symbian phones in the US in the 2000s. I owned a few for fun, far after they were outdated. But my Nokia E51 worked amazingly, and I used it right as the iPhone was released.
I then switched to a Palm Pixi :D
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#137> Because, as it turns out, a Libertarian free-for-all doesn’t work. It requires rational people to have an educated understanding of the risks they face. Millions of people installed dodgy apps, saw the one-time prompt, and lost control of their data. Doesn't the premise of the article disprove this statement? There's been no regulatory movement forcing the "Symbian" granular permission approach. I'd argue the pseud…
And also, people usually take a people-concept and apply it to tech. "It can't work in tech, so it won't work for the market". On the contrary. Libertarianism does not forbid a company to implement whatever jailed garden it wants, so long as it does not force or lie to its customers. And the problem with the lying corporations does not come from the free market, it comes from government lobbying and protections. Regulations are only a way for the monopolists to curb competition, nothing more.
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#138It is unfair to compare. An application with an offline map is different, by design, that one where you can download the map or require a connection. Compare TomTom and Garmin with Google Maps and Apple Maps. Which one's used much more nowadays? What has won is capability-based design, and the fact that the review system in iOS is better (but not perfect) compared to Google. The install base is also much larger thoug…
It isn't about need, it's about want.
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#139I still have my nokia c2-01. It works fine, it stills takes picture, and it's 9 years old. The battery last for about 1 week or less. I do calls with a 2 euro/month plan. I really wish I could have a smartphone with similar hardware that I could upload some executable on it written in C. I still cannot believe there are no minimalist RPi-like smartphone that lets you easily do this. Smartphones today are overpriced s…
I really liked Viktors amazing 4 bit processor
http://www.vttoth.com/CMS/index.php/projects/13-4-bit-proces...
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#140I used work for Symbian. The OS itself was great at the time (it's open sourced somewhere), and got security correct (I don't recall 'privacy' ever being an explicit goal) but it was an absolute bitch to develop for. It had its own dialect of C++ which looks nothing like modern C++, the learning curve was huge. It tried really hard to have an app ecosystem but it was nothing like what google and apple have today. Net…
I worked at Nokia starting in about 2004. Looking back on my career, one of the single greatest feelings of accomplishment was getting a Hello World application to run on Symbian/S60. I thought I knew C++ going in, but I wasn't prepared for two phase constructors and the 6 files you'd need to draw a simple list view on the screen. Felt amazing once it worked though!