Start at the 4 minute mark here:
https://youtu.be/oUOn6FrDPwg?t=240
Infuriating series of events. It's not simply a matter of pilot error, it's criminal negligence.
Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
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#12Unlicensed pilots are very common in Alaska. There's an old joke that the FAA hopes to get at least 50% of the pilots in Alaska properly licensed.
Those pilots wouldn't happen to be flying fully loaded A320s would they?
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "They don't have flying experience," he said. Yeah, I have no idea how that works. "Just wing it!" but literally.
My guess probably a license to fly some smaller aircraft. Just no actual real commercial pilot license and type certification to the actual plane they fly for work. And then just hoping that the captain/co-pilot with you has the real license/skills.
Generally no skills. See my comment above.
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#14Unlicensed pilots are very common in Alaska. There's an old joke that the FAA hopes to get at least 50% of the pilots in Alaska properly licensed.
You mean flying certified aircraft or experimental aircraft and bush planes?
It’s one thing to fly unlicensed and another to claim you have a proper license when you actually paid someone to take the test for you because you don’t have the necessary experience and you’re using that license to fly commercial airliners.
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#15Unlicensed pilots are very common in Alaska. There's an old joke that the FAA hopes to get at least 50% of the pilots in Alaska properly licensed.
Those pilots wouldn't happen to be flying fully loaded A320s would they?
I hope not. I expect the vast majority are GA pilots, but given that they're skirting the law, it's hard to say.
Edit: That was a semi-joke, obviously they don't have airbuses. Many are operating in a commercial capacity though, offering rides to customers or hauling freight.
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#16Unlicensed pilots are very common in Alaska. There's an old joke that the FAA hopes to get at least 50% of the pilots in Alaska properly licensed.
Alaska the state or Alaska Airlines?
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Those pilots wouldn't happen to be flying fully loaded A320s would they?
I hope not. I expect the vast majority are GA pilots, but given that they're skirting the law, it's hard to say. Edit: That was a semi-joke, obviously they don't have airbuses. Many are operating in a commercial capacity though, offering rides to customers or hauling freight.
No, no it's not. It's ridiculous to think unlicensed pilots from Alaska are somehow flying A320s for any airline carrier.
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#18"PIA has grounded all its pilots who hold fake licenses, effective immediately."
I would have thought anyone with a fake license was already grounded. It sounds like they knew this was an issue and just looked the other way.
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#19Unlicensed pilots are very common in Alaska. There's an old joke that the FAA hopes to get at least 50% of the pilots in Alaska properly licensed.
Most of them aren't flying commercial jets though. They're mostly people flying GA-sized aircraft for hire without paying for the right papers to do it (i.e. doing it on a private pilot's license or an expired license).
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#20Unlicensed pilots are very common in Alaska. There's an old joke that the FAA hopes to get at least 50% of the pilots in Alaska properly licensed.
I suppose this is where the joke may have come from: https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/46907/who-check...