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iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents every few keystrokes

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Post by kube-system »

Nullabillity wrote: post #431
dylan604 wrote: post #108

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Not being an Android user, one of the negatives that was often talked about (maybe no longer true?) is that a lot of phones could not upgrade to new versions of Android. Is that still a thing, or was that limited to the lower tier phones?

Apples vs oranges. With iOS the norm seems to be that apps support 1 version back, if even that. So as soon as your device is no longer updated (or if you dislike the update!), you're stuck. Android puts much more emphasis on backwards compatibility, with Google moving more and more functionality into app libraries rather than system frameworks. Our app still supports Android 4.4 (released in 2014!).

You can walk into any Best Buy and buy new devices on the shelf that are running versions of Android so old they can't run apps like Netflix -- devices that are out of date now, and will never get an update. This is part of the reason Android developers need strong backwards compatibility.

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Post by chacha2 »

rimjongun wrote: post #300
7786655 wrote: post #76

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Let the user replace the manufacturer's keys with their own?

Imagine grandma accidentally putting her phone number in instead of an encryption key.

Imagine grandma going for a drive by shooting with her AK

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Post by wycy »

bllguo wrote: post #356
abakker wrote: post #290

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For some of us, having a locked down, reliable, secure, and pure phone is a great solution. I don’t want iOS on my random experimental project laptop, for that I have Linux or windows, or vms. But, cellphones are not something I need to hack around on.

their point is that you can choose to have "pure" android or "unpure" - which is not an option apple provides. why is that worse?

Because "unpure" Android barely receives updates and the few occasions where it does, it's extremely delayed. So that's pretty "worse"

You can also choose to jailbreak an Apple device if you really want to be unpure, and luckily doing so won't prevent you from updating your phone in the future.

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Post by wycy »

tedivm wrote: post #119
dylan604 wrote: post #108

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Not being an Android user, one of the negatives that was often talked about (maybe no longer true?) is that a lot of phones could not upgrade to new versions of Android. Is that still a thing, or was that limited to the lower tier phones?

It's definitely still a thing, as android updates are normally pushed by the manufacturers. The Android One phones are an exception to this.

It's crazy that this ever became a thing. When Android first came out I assumed it would essentially be like Windows for the smartphone.

But imagine if Windows worked the way Android does. You buy a Dell Windows laptop and then you receive all your OS updates directly from Dell, they limit you to only 2 years of updates (if that), and put some bloated skin over the whole OS.

I don't know why Android users accept this.

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Post by greyhair »

xerox13ster wrote: post #480
the_other wrote: post #466

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Roughly speaking, current OSs "stop" at tools for interacting with data, and the hardware behind it. In this world where we expect internet access, I'm beginning to think OSs need to manage certain types of data more proactively. I'm trying to wrap a general point around your concerns about contacts. Contacts seem one of the data types that need something approaching OS level tooling. For me, another is "tags". I wan…

That rival was Windows Phone 7.5 through 8.5 They had a People hub that collated all your contacts and had reasonable sharing mechanisms for the data. HERE was essentially that places concept. I'm sure if Windows Phone had kept traction, it would be integrating your smart device health data into live tiles and a hub interface for all the metrics.

My son and I were both long time Windows Phone users. It never gained the public acceptance required to survive, but I don't know anyone that used it for any length of time, that does not miss it. The UI was very intuitive and it just worked for me. My brother is still running it on his Nokia phone, that seems to be lasting forever. I am not sure which model it is, but the camera on it is fabulous. I wish I had picked one of those up.

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Post by kpennell »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #534

TikTok is known to be Chinese malware. Is anybody on HN surprised by this? https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/12/30/army-follows-...

I know this and I get it....but damn it's so much more entertaining than Instagram now. The content is more varied, more raw, and the for you page filtering is so well-tailored.

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Post by abc-xyz »

sbuk wrote: post #443
abc-xyz wrote: post #372

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Maybe the Chinese government forced Apple the same way that they’re forcing them to secretly share [Chinese] users [in China] most sensitive data with the government (photos, videos, notes and everything automatically backed up by iCloud).

You do know that iCloud isn’t owned or operated by Apple in China? Much like Microsoft/Office 365, it’s owned and operated by a state owned business. This is true of a lot of large cloud services that run in China. I’m not saying it’s any better, or indeed worse, rather it’s an important distinction.

I do and I don’t think it’s an important distinction at all.

That being said, I of course know that the Chinese government didn’t force Apple to implement this privacy violating feature, and I know that the Chinese government didn’t force Apple to allow TikTok to abuse it. But many people see Apple as a privacy conscious company thanks to its marketing, and its good to remind people that for Apple, privacy is simply a marketing gimmick.

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Post by asveikau »

rescbr wrote: post #504
xerox13ster wrote: post #480

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That rival was Windows Phone 7.5 through 8.5 They had a People hub that collated all your contacts and had reasonable sharing mechanisms for the data. HERE was essentially that places concept. I'm sure if Windows Phone had kept traction, it would be integrating your smart device health data into live tiles and a hub interface for all the metrics.

Windows Phone’s hub concept was marvelous. As a user I don’t care if I’m messaging you though MSN Messenger* , Skype or XMPP; I just want to IM. Gaming hub integrating with Xbox Live was a nice touch, it felt like MS finally got the concept of an ecosystem. * let’s keep it time accurate :)

Except when you realize all of those implementations needed to be coded by Microsoft. There was no way for a third party to plug in. I heard some things from MS people that the clients for IM services were driven server side which would have made it hard and inelegant to add additional protocols.

Nokia's maemo had this done with better execution. The SMS app had a plug-in for xmpp and I used it for Google talk. I think I used a third party one for Google voice. There was a Skype one that supported calling through the normal phone app but it didn't work very well. The clients were run on the phone and not in the cloud.

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