Comcast, Mozilla strike privacy deal to encrypt DNS lookups in Firefox
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#3Considering that Comcast sniffs, intercepts, and injects into HTTP web sites for their customer notification system(data cap overages and such) this just screams suspicious to me even if it seems like it is meant to be a good announcement. I am not sure how I am supposed to trust that they will do the right thing for their customers.
Re: Comcast, Mozilla strike privacy deal to encrypt DNS lookups in Firefox
#4I assume that this configuration is superior to whatever FF is doing natively, and I should disable FF's DoH support?
Re: Comcast, Mozilla strike privacy deal to encrypt DNS lookups in Firefox
#5At home I've got a pihole handling my DNS, including using DoH to Cloudflare. I assume that this configuration is superior to whatever FF is doing natively, and I should disable FF's DoH support?
Re: Comcast, Mozilla strike privacy deal to encrypt DNS lookups in Firefox
#6At home I've got a pihole handling my DNS, including using DoH to Cloudflare. I assume that this configuration is superior to whatever FF is doing natively, and I should disable FF's DoH support?
yeah there is no reason (I can think of) why you need FF DoH with your setup. In fact if you were to enable DoH in FF it would bypass your pie-hole - so you most certainly want to avoid that.
my setup looks pretty much like yours with some additional /etc/hosts blocking[1] on the client just to avoid the round-trip to the pie-hole. it's also a double insulation (but it's more of a performance reason than bc of paranoia). I found that switching off ipv6 dns resolution in FF (`network.dns.disableIPv6` in about:config) has tremendously sped up my DNS lookups in FF (though I haven't had time to analyze why).
in case you're worried about homograph phishing attacks you could also add a regex to your pie-hole's dnsmasq (not sure what piehole uses but I know it has a fork of dnsmask that supports regex) so that punicode domains (any domains matching "xn--") are sinkholed to 0.0.0.0 as well.
Re: Comcast, Mozilla strike privacy deal to encrypt DNS lookups in Firefox
#7Considering that Comcast sniffs, intercepts, and injects into HTTP web sites for their customer notification system(data cap overages and such) this just screams suspicious to me even if it seems like it is meant to be a good announcement. I am not sure how I am supposed to trust that they will do the right thing for their customers.
Agreed, if it was cloudflare I would have at least given them the benefits of a doubt, but not Comcast.
For non 1.1.1.1 dns users I can just set up varnish and they'll be served via GEO ip lookup so the domain gets pointed to the nearest ip address. This is much cheaper. I'm not going to buy an ipv4 block just for cloudflare dns users.
Their privacy claim is a lie because your webserver is going to be exposed to the end user i.p. address anyways after resolving from the nameserver.
Re: Comcast, Mozilla strike privacy deal to encrypt DNS lookups in Firefox
#8Considering that Comcast sniffs, intercepts, and injects into HTTP web sites for their customer notification system(data cap overages and such) this just screams suspicious to me even if it seems like it is meant to be a good announcement. I am not sure how I am supposed to trust that they will do the right thing for their customers.
Re: Comcast, Mozilla strike privacy deal to encrypt DNS lookups in Firefox
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed, if it was cloudflare I would have at least given them the benefits of a doubt, but not Comcast.
Cloudflare is harmful to independent CDN's. They hide the originating i.p. address (no other does it) to the nameserver in the name of "privacy" so you can only have as much granularity as the nearest cloudflare server to user (anti-competitive). That is unless you buy an ipv4 block (because everyone is still on ipv4) and set up anycast. For non 1.1.1.1 dns users I can just set up varnish and they'll be served via GE…
> Cloudflare is harmful to independent CDN's.
Cloudflare is a competitor to CDNs. You don't need to use a CDN with Cloudflare, they proxy your content fully and do caching along the way as needed.
> Their privacy claim is a lie because your webserver is going to be exposed to the end user i.p. address anyways after resolving from the nameserver.
It's not a lie. Cloudflare is the nameserver, and the CDN. So after resolution the end user still has just a Cloudflare IP.
Re: Comcast, Mozilla strike privacy deal to encrypt DNS lookups in Firefox
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cloudflare is harmful to independent CDN's. They hide the originating i.p. address (no other does it) to the nameserver in the name of "privacy" so you can only have as much granularity as the nearest cloudflare server to user (anti-competitive). That is unless you buy an ipv4 block (because everyone is still on ipv4) and set up anycast. For non 1.1.1.1 dns users I can just set up varnish and they'll be served via GE…
EDIT: I associated the name Cloudflare with the main product. I forgot the context of this being about DNS and therefore my comment is about Cloudflare CDN not 1.1.1.1 > Cloudflare is harmful to independent CDN's. Cloudflare is a competitor to CDNs. You don't need to use a CDN with Cloudflare, they proxy your content fully and do caching along the way as needed. > Their privacy claim is a lie because your webserver i…
> In 2011 Google wrote an IETF draft to send Client IP information using the EDNS0 extension and this is usually called ‘edns-client-subnet’. As a DNS client, it means that a truncated version of your IP address will be added into the DNS request. The DNS server will use this truncated IP address to make a more informed decision in how it responds so that you can be connected to the most optimal server. This standard is promoted by the Faster Internet initiative and already adopted by some leading vendors.
Because it is designed to keep privacy, the sender has the freedom to limit the client IP information. Instead of sending a full IP address, the DNS server is able to send partial information such as /24 only. For instance, if your IP address is 66.214.81.22, the DNS server will only expose the first three octets, so 66–214–81. Armed with the real IP address of the querying device, the DNS server can now come up with a much more accurate response. With this more intelligent routing, customers have a better Internet experience with lower latency and faster speeds. Best of all, this integration is being done using an open standard that is available for any company to integrate into their own platform.
source: https://engineering.salesforce.com/why-is-edns-important-for...
Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 for consumers kills EDNS "edns-client-subnet" and instead offers the ip of the nearest cloudflare server to the user even if the website is not using cloudflare. This means your website can not ever serve content faster then cloudflare even if you could potentially be faster.
This is the reason why many internet archives do not allow access to cloudflare client dns (1.1.1.1) users as a form of protest.
BTW, Cloudflare allows you to get informed about the end user's ip via a "x-forwarded-for" header.