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Re: Julian Assange charged in superseding indictment

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Hang on, did they just accuse Chelsea Manning of attempting to hack computer systems? Is that a new allegation? To the best of my knowledge she only ever used access she already had, not attempted privilege escalation. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

That was my understanding, as well. I was under the impression that Manning already had pretty carte blanche access to a lot of stuff, and that was how she was able to get it in the first place.

Maybe one of the items she provided to Assange was encrypted, and he worked to break the encryption, without consulting Manning.

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I feel nausea... This and the new anti-encryption bills... I am happy to know the existence such a lot of great American minds, mathematicians, scientists, visionaries, because, else, with only the kind of ugly news such as above, my image of US would have been tainted for good. (*) I'm not American. I'm neutral about not being American, thanks to the existence of both plus and minus items. By the way of course you c…

I may be misunderstanding your comment, but Assange is Australian.

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I'm not a fan of Assange and I think the allegations in Sweden were credible. But what is currently happening to him is beyond unjust.

Why do you think they are? I ask because I haven't researched beyond the initial news stories.

Aren't the initial news stories credible?

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I feel nausea... This and the new anti-encryption bills... I am happy to know the existence such a lot of great American minds, mathematicians, scientists, visionaries, because, else, with only the kind of ugly news such as above, my image of US would have been tainted for good. (*) I'm not American. I'm neutral about not being American, thanks to the existence of both plus and minus items. By the way of course you c…

I may be misunderstanding your comment, but Assange is Australian.

Oh, sorry if it was not very clear, I was saying that US treatment of the Assange case was disgusting me.

By "American great minds", I was thinking about all the American mathematicians and scientists whose books I passionately devour, and the splendid futuristic projects of some tech corps, which bring sci-fi dreams to reality.

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The judgement was made long before Assange even set foot in the US. This is just a show to try and deter other people from exposing their dirty secrets. If they could get Snowden, he'd be treated in the same manner for exposing their misdeeds. It's a rigged game.

Do you have proof of that?

Shouldn’t the burden of proof be on the government at this point that they wouldn’t do everything in their power to spy on citizens and punish people for trying to stop them?

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Feels like the last decade has shown Leaking to the General Public is not very productive. As in outcomes are poor.

There is always something else lined up every 2 minutes to pull attention away from the leak.

I am not sure if anyone studies "leaking effectiveness" but I am guessing in info tsunami conditions larger the leak less impact it has. Cause no one knows whose network of power is going to get impacted so everyone does nothing.

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> In 2012, Assange communicated directly with a leader of the hacking group LulzSec (who by then was cooperating with the FBI), and provided a list of targets for LulzSec to hack. With respect to one target, Assange asked the LulzSec leader to look for (and provide to WikiLeaks) mail and documents, databases and pdfs. In another communication, Assange told the LulzSec leader that the most impactful release of hacked materials would be from the CIA, NSA, or the New York Times. WikiLeaks obtained and published emails from a data breach committed against an American intelligence consulting company by an “Anonymous” and LulzSec-affiliated hacker. According to that hacker, Assange indirectly asked him to spam that victim company again.

This is almost certainly sabu/Hector Monsegur. [1]

This guy put Jeremy Hammond [2] behind bars, and now he's being used to bring down Julian Freaking Assange. More lives ruined than you can count on one hand.

I hope people don't forget that Wikileaks has never published anything that has been proven false. Not once. Julian Assange is in solitary confinement in a prison on bullshit charges, and this is just another one.

Stand up for journalists. Real journalists.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hector_Monsegur

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Hammond

edit: as pointed out below, Assange was moved from solitary confinement in February.

Re: Julian Assange charged in superseding indictment

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Wikileaks used to be something, then Assange decided to filter leaks based on whatever biases he felt that day. He alienated a lot of his initial supporters doing this, focusing only on leaking content from "the west." Later fully engaging with state sponsored hackers to meddle in the US election[1] while again ignoring any leaks about Russia[2] and friends.

As far as I can tell there is nothing left of Wikileaks, its just Assange now.

[1] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dt6BBwBXcAEL-Fj?format=jpg&name=...

>"if you have anything hillary related we (Wikileaks) want it in the next tweo(sic) days prefable(sic) because the Democratic National Convention is approaching.."

[2] https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-l...

>WikiLeaks declined to publish a wide-ranging trove of documents — at least 68 gigabytes of data — that came from inside the Russian Interior Ministry, according to partial chat logs reviewed by Foreign Policy.

>“As far as we recall these are already public,” WikiLeaks wrote at the time.

>By June 2016, Assange had threatened to dump files on Clinton that would be damaging to her campaign prospects. A month later, on July 22, WikiLeaks published tens of thousands of emails out of the Democratic National Committee — preceding the massive dumps in October of emails belonging to Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta.

>In late August 2016, when WikiLeaks’s Clinton disclosures were in full swing, Assange said he had information on Trump but that it wasn’t worth publishing. (In a message to FP, WikiLeaks now says the organization “received no original documents on the campaign that did not turn out to be already public.”)

Weird that data "already being public" didn't stop Wikileaks from forwarding the content before when it came from Russian backed fronts:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/885395248612085760

>@wikileaks

>Pro-Russia hacker site (or front) "Cyber Berkut" publishes alleged links between Ukraine and Clinton

Re: Julian Assange charged in superseding indictment

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> In 2012, Assange communicated directly with a leader of the hacking group LulzSec (who by then was cooperating with the FBI), and provided a list of targets for LulzSec to hack. With respect to one target, Assange asked the LulzSec leader to look for (and provide to WikiLeaks) mail and documents, databases and pdfs. In another communication, Assange told the LulzSec leader that the most impactful release of hacked…

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