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Those who exercise free speech should also defend it even when it’s offensive

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Re: Those who exercise free speech should also defend it even when it’s offensive

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Post by rbecker »

Just in case someone finds the examples in the article all acceptable censorship, here's a few more off the top of my head:

Evergreen professor forced to resign for opposing day of white absence: https://blog.usejournal.com/the-controversy-of-bret-weinstei...

UCLA professor placed under investigation for reading MLK's "Letter from a Birmingham Jail": https://freebeacon.com/issues/university-to-investigate-lect...

Data scientist fired for retweeting study showing non-violent protests are more effective: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/case-for-liberalism-...

Re: Those who exercise free speech should also defend it even when it’s offensive

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Post by harryh »

rbecker wrote: post #2

Just in case someone finds the examples in the article all acceptable censorship, here's a few more off the top of my head: Evergreen professor forced to resign for opposing day of white absence: https://blog.usejournal.com/the-controversy-of-bret-weinstei... UCLA professor placed under investigation for reading MLK's "Letter from a Birmingham Jail": https://freebeacon.com/issues/university-to-investigate-lect... Dat…

The last one about the data scientist tweet got even crazier:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/white-fragility-raci...

Re: Those who exercise free speech should also defend it even when it’s offensive

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Post by patrick5151 »

Got this in an from gab.ai ceo,

=== Let’s review the past week of internet censorship:

The Federalist and Zerohedge were censored by Google

TMZ removed their comment section to censor “hate speech”

Gavin Mcinnes was banned from YouTube

VDARE is losing their domain registrar

Gab was blacklisted by Visa

E Michael Jones had his books censored by Amazon

Katie Hopkins was banned by Twitter

@CarpeDonktum was banned by Twitter

Trump’s tweet was censored by Twitter

===

Surprised to see E. Michael Jones get banned on Amazon, lol downvotes you censorious jerks

Re: Those who exercise free speech should also defend it even when it’s offensive

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Post by fennecfoxen »

the_resistence wrote: post #3

Regrettably, that is what's lost in all of this. Protesters against other opinions and belief systems strongly defend free speech so long as you are saying what they approve of.

The world, in general, is abandoning the past two centuries in which freedom has risen, to become illiberal, and enforce intellectual orthodoxies. It is more obvious and markedly so in in places like Turkey, but even here in the US we see those who would blacklist all political enemies and dissenters. These efforts will ultimately fail here, but not before grave harm is inflicted; history will judge us as harshly as we judge the McCarthy era.

There were Communists in the government in the McCarthy era. There were quite a few Communists, much as there is still racism at large in the USA today. And yet you will note that successfully rooting out spies is not why McCarthy is remembered, but rather, for his self-aggrandizing campaign of paranoid repression.

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Post by klmadfejno »

fennecfoxen wrote: post #7
the_resistence wrote: post #3

Regrettably, that is what's lost in all of this. Protesters against other opinions and belief systems strongly defend free speech so long as you are saying what they approve of.

The world, in general, is abandoning the past two centuries in which freedom has risen, to become illiberal, and enforce intellectual orthodoxies. It is more obvious and markedly so in in places like Turkey, but even here in the US we see those who would blacklist all political enemies and dissenters. These efforts will ultimately fail here, but not before grave harm is inflicted; history will judge us as harshly as…

I don't think equating racist power structures in police and government to red scare communists is a good analogy. The fear of communists was mostly made up in rhetoric. The protestors on race relations are pretty clear on why they're upset.
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