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Who does Google sell your docs and drive data to?
they don't sell it, they use it to profile you
From docs and drive? Which stuff?
Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead
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#422No kidding. Early adopter of gsuite for domains (work and personal email). The google home devices CANNOT get your calendar from your google calendar. My Alexa device can easily. The thing of stuff just stagnating and no care to scrub the rough corners is crazy. They have some things they keep on improving. I think youtube is there (after the dumped plus thank goodness). Chrome seems to be moving along nicely. I used…
> The thing of stuff just stagnating and no care to scrub the rough corners is crazy. On the outset, you might think with such ridiculously high compensation there would be an expectation of quality, but I think that's an error. Google operates as an ad-company that happens to employ ridiculous amounts of exhorbitantly compensated individuals to engage in market and technological research, particularly to open or exp…
"_open a new market_ for advertising, and to gather data for the same."
No, I think they wanted to make money from it directly via Enterprise sales.
MS Office is the #1 source of profit for MS for a long while.
In the 2000's it seemed 'everything was going cloud', naturally Google thought they could leapfrog MS into that space.
But it didn't work out.
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#423It is well known the incentives at Google are aligned at working on new features than maintaining them and keeping users happy. May be this is just a natural outcome of that. This is one of the most damaging things Google and the people it influenced did to programming profession. There is a generation of programmers now who can do very well on leetcode, but god help those who maintain that code after them - I know t…
For an anecdotal counter-example, the habits of code maintenance I picked up at Google are 10x better than anywhere else I've worked at. I've worked at small and medium-sized companies (and my current company is research-focused enough that a lot of people don't have a strong engineering background), but this is also what I hear from my Xoogler friends at (eg) Uber and Airbnb.
I'd be surprised if this tendency had anything to do with Google exporting its culture.
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> and most importantly, as a development platform, chrome os din't do well Microsoft completely lapped the industry on this with VS Code. It has a mode where it runs the editor backend the cloud, and the frontend in a browser. Edit: I thought I just read it just got to 53% market share. It was at 18% and growing fast in 2018, so it’s plausible they have majority market share now: https://triplebyte.com/blog/editor-re…
> It has a mode where it runs the editor backend the cloud, and the frontend in a browser. You mean like X? Which was created in 1984 and at the canonical version (11) in 1987?
Yeah, but (presumably) much more latency tolerant.
I didn’t mean to imply they were the first do build a development environment using a thin client.
I meant they are way ahead on in-browser / on tablet IDE’s, which is surprising, since Google had a 10 year lead on the office suite side of things.
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#425Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know if this is sarcastic or not, but I believe this.
That's an obnoxiously first world thing to say.
Can you please not post in the flamewar style to HN, regardless of how wrong another comment is or you feel it is? Perhaps you don't owe it better, but you owe the community better—we should all be posting in a way that protects the container for future discussion. It's fragile, and it's under more pressure than ever these days.
A better way to respond to that one might be by saying something about all the people who can't afford to pay for email, who benefit from the free services we're talking about.
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#426Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know if this is sarcastic or not, but I believe this.
That's an obnoxiously first world thing to say.
You might be too young to have experienced this, but this is literally how things used to be, and they worked pretty ok.
When you payed your ISP for internet service it used to include an email account with it.
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#427Still can’t copy a folder full of docs in google drive and it’s so frustrating.
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I was listening to an interview from a manager at GCP on the “Screaming in the Cloud” podcast. He had written a great cost calculator that would show how much money that someone could save over AWS. But because he couldn’t convince corporate to adopt it and when it became a feature it fell under the reliability guidelines, they canned it even though customers liked it.
So there are at least a few things here: 1) A 'cost calculator' will be a hugely sensitive product, that is absolutely in the domain of sales, it has nothing to do with dev. So many sales issues around that - this will be the primary issue with such a product. 2) Just because some people like it doesn't mean it's worth maintaining. Maybe it is, maybe it's not. Paradoxically, because it was such a marketing/sales focu…
> 1) A 'cost calculator' will be a hugely sensitive product, that is absolutely in the domain of sales, it has nothing to do with dev. So many sales issues around that - this will be the primary issue with such a product.
I can't tell what you're alluding to with "hugely sensitive", and "many sales issues around it". Could you clarify a concrete example these fuzzy expressions describe?
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#429Photoshop->Figma :D that's hilarious!
Why? I guess it's because Figma has fewer features, but if OP used PS for web/app design, wouldn't this be fair?
Because photoshop is primarily a complex software for professional raster image editing/designing. Those who use it for that purpose will not think of Figma as its replacement. Figma is a SVG based UX design tool and those who do UX design in 2020 most likely (hopefully) aren't using a heavy/complex raster graphics tool like photoshop.
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#430The author mentions switching to hey for email. Given all the press it's gotten recently, I decided to check it out. I don't get the hype. This is how my gmail already works. I use priority inbox. New senders get high priority until I mark them as low priority, and then they don't. Gmail already has a snooze button so I can reply later (and also I have a reply-later tag that's easy to do with keyboard shortcuts). You…
When you open the Hey inbox, it only has the important stuff in it, not the messages of whoever decided to reach out to you today. It's a subtle difference but I love it.
Then when you have a moment, it's also very satisfying to just go through the screener list in bulk and click thumbs down/up and knowing you'll never see that sender again. Sometimes in GMail, no matter how many times I mark some thing as spam, the mail keeps on coming. Hey is the nuclear option to Gmail's fly swatter.