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From Redmond with Love - IE team sends cake for FF4

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Re: From Redmond with Love - IE team sends cake for FF4

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And all the man-years you saved users by using XMLHttpRequest? Otherwise known as AJAX? Or have you conveniently forgotten which browser that was introduced in? One day you should download the version of Netscape that was around when IE6 came out.

You're correct, during their browser war with Netscape, IE was introducing revolutionary features, albeit not all standards based. They even implemented web fonts in IE4 if I'm not mistaken. And then they sat on it for 4 years, refusing to fully implement the CSS 2.1 spec, refusing to fix ridiculous positioning bugs, and even refusing to fix security flaws that they mandated non-critical, although several of them use…

>and even refusing to fix security flaws that they mandated non-critical, although several of them used together often lead to arbitrary code execution on the client.

Source?

Anyway, even worse, back in the IE 5.x era when they added most of that stuff like XMLHTTPRequest etc., they focused on that instead of complying with even basic CSS1! (Yes, it was better than Netscape 4, but that was because the JSSS/CSS fiasco that resulted in was a lot worse) IE6 added DOCTYPE switching and a "standards" mode with better CSS1 compliance, but I don't think they touched the buggy CSS2 support, and during the time they sat on it, guess what people did with it that caused trouble when MS released IE7 that fixed some of these bugs?

Re: From Redmond with Love - IE team sends cake for FF4

#82

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I could care less, but companies have done it several times. Netscape skipped version 5 (a doomed project). Microsoft ditched version numbers for years (95, 98, 2000), and then just names -- due to how version number increments on an existing product appear to end users. To technically savvy it doesnt really matter "is it 5.0 or 4.5?" But the version number or name is about trying to position the product as a "new on…

> I could care less, ... I don't want to be "that guy" and I'm not trying to be a grammar Nazi. I know this is now an idiom in the USA, and therefore it doesn't have to make sense. However ... I've now heard it said, in four different countries, that this phrase makes the speaker sound like an idiot. I know it's now just "the norm" in the USA, but I wanted to let people here know that saying this makes a bad impressi…

It's sarcastic in intent. Trying to condemn an idiom that is obviously logical nonsense misses the point. When I say "I could care less", it could be interpreted instead, "as if there were anything else I care less about."
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