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You can't tell people anything (2004)

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Re: You can't tell people anything (2004)

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> When people ask me about my life’s ambitions, I often joke that my goal is to become independently wealthy so that I can afford to get some work done. If this isn't the best argument for a survivable UBI, I don't know what is. But, alas, you can't tell people anything.

Is it? UBI surely relies on taxes, which would evaporate if everyone retired early to live off their UBI.

Are you thinking of income tax as the only tax that exist?

Re: You can't tell people anything (2004)

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This reads like sales speak. My experience is the opposite. Some people take to concepts like a duck to water, some people are dopey and forget things you told them an hour ago, some people (most people) want you to hold their hand every step of the way and will actively try to avoid figuring things out independently. I want to say it's enthusiasm that matters, but a lazy smart person takes less time to train than an…

> This reads like sales speak. I am not a sales person. I have been training people as a volunteer for decades. I have never made a dime (in fact, I am usually out-of-pocket by a fair amount). I am not a professional trainer or orator (or even a particularly good one), but I am an experienced one. The people I have trained have faced enormous challenges in life, and are trying to get back up, after having been knocke…

Hey, thanks for whatever you're trying to do out there. I grew up among a bunch of kids with pretty poor prospects, and we all started building invisible barbed wire fences around ourselves from an early age. It takes guts to try to do any improve-the-world work pro bono, and even more so when you're working with people who don't shower you with praise for it.

I'm sure that even when you seemed to get nowhere or worse, occasionally some of those expressionless faces across from you squirreled something important away that helped them later on. Make sure you get the rest you need so you don't burn out too quick.

Re: You can't tell people anything (2004)

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It is hard to explain something which is in your mind and haven't implemented. But, for my day-to-day talk with something who don't know my situation, I explain by jumping in her situation and give the feel by comparison.

For example, if I have to explain her about how I feel today at work when I was assigned with front-end task that I don't know as I'm back-end developer and just spent complete day to solve that small problem. I usually use her context like, you're tailor and you know how to make shirt but now you assigned to do some alter work on pant because you know tailoring.

Re: You can't tell people anything (2004)

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> I often think of this as "it's hard to tell people the solution to a problem they don't have", or don't know they have. This may be way off in another field, but this is actually frustrating to me as a father in another way: when we watch shows or read books with our child so many of the stories are so far detached from reality as to make me ask, "Why are we asking kids to care about this?" I have particular ire fo…

Have you found any good counterexamples? We let our three-year-old watch Daniel Tiger’s Neighborhood and I love it because it is exactly this: short (~10 minute) stories about situations and conflicts that a young child will encounter in everyday life. I’d be really interested to hear of other good shows & books like this. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Daniel_Tiger%27s_Nei...

Pingu is also very good. If you haven't seen it, it's a Claymation penguin and his family. He's not a goody goody--on the one hand is just funny, but on the other hand it gets to explore his kid-life and kid-choices. TH other fun thing is, they all speak a language made up by the Italian opera singer that voices them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingu

https://www.amazon.com/Pingu/dp/B01J4L837M

Re: You can't tell people anything (2004)

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I often think of this as "it's hard to tell people the solution to a problem they don't have", or don't know they have. I think it's one of the major problems in the entire structure of the educational system... it's all telling people solutions to problems they don't have yet. Sometimes this is just unavoidable; I'm not sure how to turn geography into a problem you have. (I mean, you can fake it, but people's brains…

What you describe is CPM math (com.org). I taught with this material for a few years right before common core came out.

Re: You can't tell people anything (2004)

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Anything truly new is met with everything but understanding. Back in 2006 I had the seeds of an idea that you probably know today as a "deep fake", but I was calling it "personalized media". By 2008 I had a fully operating feature film quality automated actor replacement pipeline (my background is visual effects.) However, even with a working system nobody could understand the ramifications this could have on educati…

the Russian film and novel "Generation P" from around that era explores the implications of this tech. It's very ahead of out times. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_P_(film)

Looks very interesting, I will have to watch.

Re: You can't tell people anything (2004)

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Anything truly new is met with everything but understanding. Back in 2006 I had the seeds of an idea that you probably know today as a "deep fake", but I was calling it "personalized media". By 2008 I had a fully operating feature film quality automated actor replacement pipeline (my background is visual effects.) However, even with a working system nobody could understand the ramifications this could have on educati…

Its a shame of your bankrupcy, but I do wonder what all the other ideas really are, Tupac on Coachella, Carrie Fisher in star wars, Trump's face on a baby, and maybe like in the old movie Simone true virtual stars (sim one, get it), what the real ramifications are. Maybe I don't get it but it is not anything different than those Elvis lookalikes on Times Square.

It is actually significantly different. Imagine being a typically American White Christian and seeing a compelling narrative where you are borne Black, you see yourself as a Black version of yourself in the media mirrors, and you experience a powerful story about the harshness of life as a Black American child. That is significantly more powerful than a Times Square Elvis.

Re: You can't tell people anything (2004)

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post #97
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I often think of this as "it's hard to tell people the solution to a problem they don't have", or don't know they have. I think it's one of the major problems in the entire structure of the educational system... it's all telling people solutions to problems they don't have yet. Sometimes this is just unavoidable; I'm not sure how to turn geography into a problem you have. (I mean, you can fake it, but people's brains…

Trouble is, it's hard to get a class of 30 kids interested in the same problems at the same time for exactly as long as the mass-production curriculum allows.

Agree. I'm against the cohort system. It was at best an accident of history that it was the best we could do; it shouldn't be considered a virtue and we should be moving away from it as rapidly as we can.

Re: You can't tell people anything (2004)

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I don't think this is accurate. The hyenas are fundamentally sadistic and difficult to satiate. That's why they're poor - it's what got them banished. They make them hyenas to reinforce it's not brought on by the situation, they're just like that. You run the risk of a racial analogy whenever you use species to articulate personality but i don't think it's intended, even subconsciously. I think it's actually a very d…

> The hyenas are fundamentally sadistic and difficult to satiate. That's why they're poor - it's what got them banished. Based on what? I’m only basing what I said on the original movie as I never saw any other content. I see the lions portraying them that way, but I see no obvious reasons to believe it’s true from the content of the movie. Maybe I’m misremembering, it’s been a while, but from what I remember they we…

I haven't seen the movie since I was a kid, but don't the hyenas live among the bones of elephants? That gives me the impression of insatiability. They gorged themselves on elephants yet they're still hungry.
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