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Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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Personally I am not at all concerned when my data is used for marketing. Instead, I like learning about products tailor-made for me.

By privacy I understand not sharing data with the public or with the oppressive regimes when it may lead to harassment, firing or arrests of people.

But using my data to sell me some watches or bike parts? I'm in.

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

#62

I really thinks it's a weird move. Safari user will disapear from our understanding of the web. We might not design and code for Safari because these users will become virtually innexistent. I am a small publisher, Safari users are demonetized , untracable, i might just say to them gtfo.

Aren't safari users more rich on average, and more willing to spend money on your website? If you need to track your visitors without thinking about their privacy, perhaps your business model isn't great.

Haha because surveillance capitalism isn’t making hundreds of billions with data!

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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post #37

What's a good tool for doing server side analytics? Like for a small site I've made for fun. The only way I can easily know how many users visit is via Google analytics. Well easily that is.

I fetch logs and run https://goaccess.io/

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

#64

Suggestion: the access logs your web server collects are enough for basic analytics, and if you are curious for more, you can manually instrument your site a little. You don't need to give Google the power to spy on your users.

Here's another suggestion: Learn how to configure Google Analytics properly. https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1011397?hl=en "If all [data sharing] settings are OFF, your Analytics data is only used to provide and maintain the Analytics service."

There are multiple things you can do with GA of course, like IP anonymization, setting a smaller expiration date for that cookie, etc, however trust in Google Analytics is low and that won't change.

Also a lot of websites, especially personal ones, are in violation of ePrivacy. You may not need GDPR consent for analytics, qualifying for a legitimate interest, but you still need a cookie banner when dropping cookies for analytics.

The market is clear about it, analytics have to be first party and privacy preserving.

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

#65

Suggestion: the access logs your web server collects are enough for basic analytics, and if you are curious for more, you can manually instrument your site a little. You don't need to give Google the power to spy on your users.

Collecting server logs doesn't work if you host your website behind Cloudflare or another CDN. You can setup some sort of pixel that's never cached and that transmits the page via query params, but then the implementation isn't reliable and a PITA. If you have your own server, something like Matomo.org works better.

Or you could just use Cloudflare logs. It's far more reliable to use log information than JavaScript given the number of people who use blockers of some sort.

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

#66

This article is incorrect. There does not appear to be a change between Safari 13.1 and Safari 14 for how it handles GA. I have tested it myself. With Safari 13.1 Apple made a change [1] to their Intelligent Tracking Prevention that blocks all 3rd party cookies for cross site resources. The only change in Safari 14 appears to be that it reports which domains have had cookies blocked. The Google Analytics beacon is st…

Could someone translate this statement to something a layman might understand? (I'm not a web dev nor am I following SEO news closely enought)

Do you imply that Apple is putting up a misleading interface in the new version of Safari where GA appear blocked while it actually isn't?

That's a pretty bold assertion and the provided link is irrelevant on that.

Again only looking for more information maybe I didn't get your point at all because I'm not in the SEO field.

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Collecting server logs doesn't work if you host your website behind Cloudflare or another CDN. You can setup some sort of pixel that's never cached and that transmits the page via query params, but then the implementation isn't reliable and a PITA. If you have your own server, something like Matomo.org works better.

Or you could just use Cloudflare logs. It's far more reliable to use log information than JavaScript given the number of people who use blockers of some sort.

Is that available for Free and Pro users? I think that's only available for Enterprise customers, no?

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Collecting server logs doesn't work if you host your website behind Cloudflare or another CDN. You can setup some sort of pixel that's never cached and that transmits the page via query params, but then the implementation isn't reliable and a PITA. If you have your own server, something like Matomo.org works better.

Or you could just use Cloudflare logs. It's far more reliable to use log information than JavaScript given the number of people who use blockers of some sort.

You need CloudFlare Enterprise to get those logs.

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

#69
post #66

This article is incorrect. There does not appear to be a change between Safari 13.1 and Safari 14 for how it handles GA. I have tested it myself. With Safari 13.1 Apple made a change [1] to their Intelligent Tracking Prevention that blocks all 3rd party cookies for cross site resources. The only change in Safari 14 appears to be that it reports which domains have had cookies blocked. The Google Analytics beacon is st…

Could someone translate this statement to something a layman might understand? (I'm not a web dev nor am I following SEO news closely enought) Do you imply that Apple is putting up a misleading interface in the new version of Safari where GA appear blocked while it actually isn't? That's a pretty bold assertion and the provided link is irrelevant on that. Again only looking for more information maybe I didn't get you…

No, it's that Safari is blocking third-parties under the same policies that it laid out earlier.

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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post #61

Personally I am not at all concerned when my data is used for marketing. Instead, I like learning about products tailor-made for me. By privacy I understand not sharing data with the public or with the oppressive regimes when it may lead to harassment, firing or arrests of people. But using my data to sell me some watches or bike parts? I'm in.

The internet is used for more than shopping. Your searches should not be public domain. Your health records. Your location. The time you go to bed at night. Where your house is. How many children you have. When you’ll next be away from home on vacation. That you looked around on a dating website while married. That you’re gay in a country where it carries the death penalty.
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