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Re: The End of OS X

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

oneplane wrote: post #305
banachtarski wrote: post #243

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I just "use linux" and I get all the benefits with much better hardware (more memory, disk storage, speed for compilation), better drivers (important especially for GPU support for either graphics/rendering work or machine learning) and my downsides are... what exactly? Itunes, Mail, etc, none of the software shipping with MacOS is actually any good. I don't use Safari. From your perspective, what aspect of the "cust…

Have you noticed how all your arguments are fine yet only personal preferences? (except dataloss) The UX, UI and 'feel' is what makes people use one thing over another. Unless you can replicate that, or can do better, nobody's getting swayed either way (and that's fine, do what you want). There is no objective 'my pc is better than your pc' because you're not the same person as the one you'd be attempting to compare…

Linux is objectively more configurable too (obviously).

This is probably my biggest complaint with macOS.

I'm still shocked by the inability to disable inertia scrolling on a usb mouse, as well as acceleration.

These things were removed on purpose.

If you use a macbook with usb devices, there are all sorts of oddities. It's annoying. I can use it, it's just not for a power user. For me, power user means "configure it", shape it to maximize your workflow speed.

MacOS is just not that. With linux there is a lot more flexibility.

I don't care too much about eye-candiness, I want my UI to be incredibly fast. MacOS has those damn animations when switching spaces that is annoying to say the least (I switch spaces very often)

Re: The End of OS X

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Post by sudosysgen »

pjmlp wrote: post #536
sudosysgen wrote: post #468

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They basically sold recovery keys. As far as Windows, 95% of the people I know pirated Windows. The only people that buy windows are enterprises.

Windows has been being sold in boxes since early 90s, 30 years long by now, and while rampant in some countries, not every country is/was a piracy dream.

The kind of people that need to buy Windows (ie, those that build their own computers) are the kind of people that either pirate it or buy illegally sourced volume keys for 3$.

Re: The End of OS X

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Post by sudosysgen »

rodgerd wrote: post #528
sudosysgen wrote: post #166

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­>inux is only free if your time has no value. I use it as a server OS plenty, but don’t really need it on my desktop. To me this means "I don't know how to get Ubuntu working". Even Arch Linux requires less maintenance for me than my 2013 Macbook Pro did. As soon as you get the setup over with correctly you never have an issue, unless you can't get set it up correctly. Windows is nice when everything works, and if y…

> To me this means "I don't know how to get Ubuntu working". Yes, I'm sure Jamie Zawinski didn't understand Unix systems well enough to get them running.

He said that over twenty years ago. Things changed. A lot.

Re: The End of OS X

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Post by wayneftw »

spease wrote: post #489
wayneftw wrote: post #228

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Runs on WINE or in a Windows virtual machine. The latter works fine for me.

Premiere Final Cut Pro

That’s it? Great!

Sounds like non-iOS software developers that are stuck on macOS can just hop right off without any problem whatsoever...

Re: The End of OS X

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Post by alkonaut »

rdslw wrote: post #446
alkonaut wrote: post #351

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Did Apple start using soldered on storage or RAM for (non-air) Macbooks?

Is it you Elon? DId you return from a few years trip to Mars? ;)

Lol I have never heard this. For me mbp=sodimm and easily replaceable drive while air is soldered on! What year did it change? I swapped my hdd for an ssd and upgraded the ram in my current mbp (which is a Sandy Bridge...)

Re: The End of OS X

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Post by Hamuko »

growse wrote: post #409
wuunderbar wrote: post #255

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I may be missing something here, but why would you need to change the stock installed tools in /usr/bin? Seems like an easy way to screw up your OS installation. And it's not like a VM where you can rollback to a snapshot or relaunch. If there really was an issue there then you either need to file a bug and have them mainline a fix, or yes hack/shim a fix on top for your needs. Perhaps leveraging PATH precedence.

> I may be missing something here, but why would you need to change the stock installed tools in /usr/bin? Because it's my computer that I paid for with my hard earned cash, and I want to. How far we have fallen.

Then you should probably disable SIP and go do whatever the hell you hope to accomplish with that.

Re: The End of OS X

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Post by willtim »

enjeyw wrote: post #515
willtim wrote: post #435

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This is anecdotal. My own anecdote is that we've had far more trouble with my wife's MacBook than my NixOS ThinkPad which just works, even after upgrades. The Linux experience depends on the distribution, software and hardware you choose. You need to choose carefully.

> you need to choose carefully. So here’s the interesting part; can you recommend a distro that is universally the right choice for dev work? If yes, please tell - I’d love to know! If the answer is “well it depends a lot on your needs” that’s kinda the point of MacOS right? The fact that making the right distro choice requires serious thought is already problematic (hypothetically)

You do have a point, with Mac the choices have been made for you. I guess the most mac-like distro is probably Ubuntu. If you pick the LTS, you might even have a smoother ride than the macOS yearly updates.

Re: The End of OS X

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Post by banachtarski »

coldtea wrote: post #513
banachtarski wrote: post #243

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I just "use linux" and I get all the benefits with much better hardware (more memory, disk storage, speed for compilation), better drivers (important especially for GPU support for either graphics/rendering work or machine learning) and my downsides are... what exactly? Itunes, Mail, etc, none of the software shipping with MacOS is actually any good. I don't use Safari. From your perspective, what aspect of the "cust…

> and my downsides are... what exactly Less cohesion, competing GUI libs/configuration systems/etc, still not 100% GPU support, the Wayland situation, almost non-existent multimedia (video, audio) options (not to mention support for peripherals like audio interfaces), and being at the worse than Apple's arbitrary mercy of your favourite desktop environment programmers (e.g. abrupt transitions and bizarro decisions in…

> still not 100% GPU support

I'm a graphics engineer so I'm not sure I understand this argument. When I talk about weaker and worse-performing hardware options and drivers on Mac, I'm referring _mainly_ to GPUs.

> Non-existent multimedia (video, audio) options

This... is simply not true (?)

Also, regarding Gnome/KDE, I dislike both and don't use either. Something like i3 with zero-to-know configuration is already pretty great out of the box.

Re: The End of OS X

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Post by davedx »

faemir wrote: post #260
davedx wrote: post #252

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I use Safari as my main browser now due to the password generation/sharing with my iPhone. It's a killer feature for me.

Firefox does this too FYI

I like Firefox but I don't use it on my iPhone. I use the Apple pw manager to log into websites on both phone/laptop a lot. The syncing to my iPhone is great.
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