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Re: The End of OS X

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Post by hundchenkatze »

dhagz wrote: post #232
pdonis wrote: post #196

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> Linux is only free if your time has no value. Linux has cost me less time than either Windows or OS X. But that's me; everyone's personal workload and usage pattern is different. My experience with OS X was that any time I tried to color outside the lines, the system worked against me, and that cost me more time. (My experience with Windows has generally been that it just sucks.) I haven't had that experience with…

For me, I can spend an entire day tweaking every bit of config in my environment, from my editors/IDEs all the way to my desktop environment/window manager (which of those would I even want to use? That's a week - at least - each to evaluate and twiddle with configuration). Hell, I could spend months evaluating which distribution I want to use. And sure, I'm doing productive work in there as well, but probably less t…

You can also just use a given distribution as-is, the major ones are usable out of the box just like macOS. Just because you _can_ spend a week tweaking every possible setting doesn't mean you have to.

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Post by HappyDreamer »

dheera wrote: post #220
sailingparrot wrote: post #174

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> I literally can think of no reason I personally would want to do this If you personnaly care a little bit about the environment there is a pretty evident reason why being able to swap a single piece of hardware is better than replacing the whole unit because everything is soldered together. Right to repair would also mean that once your device goes out of guarantee you would have more options to get your device rep…

Not only that, but also: * Apple charges +$800 for 64GB of RAM, which on Amazon would cost you around $300-350. * Apple costs $1600 for 4TB of SSD, which on Amazon would cost you around $450-600. * Soldering the SSD to the motherboard is an enormously horrible engineering decision for both servicing, backups, and data recovery.

> Soldering the SSD to the motherboard is an enormously horrible engineering decision

And a good sell-more-laptops business decision?

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Post by marsrover »

metalforever wrote: post #304
fanatic2pope wrote: post #245

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> I want my machine to solve my problems and not get in my way when I am creating solutions. That's literally why I switched to Linux in 2018, after a decade on OS X.

Linux does not solve my problems (as a power user with Linux). It does not work with the proprietary tools I need to do my job and I’ve broken apt way too many times. I’m not remotely interested in debugging this at this stage of my life.

How are you managing to break apt not once, but "way too many times?"

I haven't used Linux as a main driver in a decade but I do use it very frequently and I am intrigued by all the many ways people online seem to be able to break it. I have never once run into a problem with apt.

It really makes me wonder how much time people who complain about Linux have really put into learning it. I'm not thinking you need to read a book on it, but after a few months of just using it I would think one would be reasonably proficient?

I understand the claims of needing proprietary software. I, too, with that the Office suite was a first class citizen. That said, it absolutely baffles me the amount of weird ways people have issues.

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Post by fsflover »

y7 wrote: post #288
banachtarski wrote: post #243

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I just "use linux" and I get all the benefits with much better hardware (more memory, disk storage, speed for compilation), better drivers (important especially for GPU support for either graphics/rendering work or machine learning) and my downsides are... what exactly? Itunes, Mail, etc, none of the software shipping with MacOS is actually any good. I don't use Safari. From your perspective, what aspect of the "cust…

Applications and hardware drivers on Mac just work. Even Homebrew works pretty nicely. The visuals of Mac are vastly superior to any flavor of Linux I've tried: smooth graphics, font rendering, HiDPI support, etc. Some aspects of Mac hardware (screen, touchpad) are very hard to come by with other manufacturers. At this point I'll probably switch to Linux as soon as my 2015 Macbook stops working, but I would've really…

> hardware drivers on Mac just work

Same for GNU/Linux if you choose the hardware for it (or buy preinstalled).

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Post by xigency »

greedo wrote: post #225
scarface74 wrote: post #119

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Apple never got sued for slowing down the iPad.

Nor did they force any iPad upgrades...sigh

Whether or not Apple "forces" users to update, on current iOS they will prompt users to update on a daily basis and there is no way to turn off those notifications. There is also no way to prevent the automatic downloading of updates unless you block them at a firewall level or have limited free storage space on your device.

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Post by saagarjha »

swiley wrote: post #107
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #17

> what the company perceives as a weakness: the paucity of apps in the Mac App Store. I think that the issue with the Mac App store, is that it imposes restrictions on a once-free-for-all development environment. I know many app developers that have abandoned it, after giving it a damn fair shake. Mac developers just got used to being able to wander all over the house, poking their noses into whatever they liked. iOS…

Meh. I still can’t find most apps for my iPhone that I had on my mac. Sure there are lots of “webpages but in objective-c with notifications“ and the occasional interesting project that disappears after 2 years because the developer can’t work full time to keep up with API churn, but lots of arguably critical stuff is just missing. There’s no IRC client with working notifications that doesn’t cost money. I haven’t fo…

> I shouldn’t have to reinstall my stuff after having my files deleted with no warning every couple weeks.

iSH shouldn't really be doing this. Do you have any more details?

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Post by saagarjha »

monocasa wrote: post #202
hn_check wrote: post #46

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"The move towards "iOSing" the OS." People have been claiming this for literally a decade+ now. The death of macOS is perpetually imminent.

Did you miss the big announcement that arm macbooks will run iOS apps unmodified? Do you think you'll be able to run an non apple signed kernel on aarch64 macbooks?

I guess we'll find out a couple of weeks once the DTKs ship.

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Post by ben_w »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #89
k__ wrote: post #25

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Isn't it more the web model? I mean, the web is older, it's locked down, and browsers get more and more features.

I wouldn't call the Web "locked down." Maybe to JS coders, but it's a real leaky bucket.

I think the useful similarity between the web and iOS is that neither a rogue app nor a rogue website can access your documents without asking you.

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Post by scarface74 »

xigency wrote: post #319
scarface74 wrote: post #292

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So in response to a post saying that “Apple never got sued for slowing down iPads ”, you post another link where they got sued for slowing down a number of iPhones .

Yes, because your original argument was with someone who said their iPad was slower after a software update. This is evidence that hundreds of people had iOS devices slow down noticeably after an update and Apple decided to pay them to remove the case from court. As a software developer I am aware of how adding features to an operating system to can indeed slow it down on existing hardware or raise the level of what…

No “Words Mean Things”. The original poster said Apple got sued for slowing down iPads. I said one sentence.

Apple never got sued for slowing down the iPad.

He claimed that Apple got sued that wasn’t the case. I never said that iPads didn’t slow down because of iOS updates. My first gen iPad became very unstable because of iOS 5. I didn’t buy a new iPad until 2017.

So how are two citations about Apple getting sued for slowing down iPhones relevant?

Not only that, the lawsuits were because Apple slowed down phones when batteries got old. The slowdowns on the phones when Apple was sued were caused by the battery not the OS.

The iPad has never had the power management features that the iPhone has for old batteries.

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Post by saagarjha »

duskwuff wrote: post #193
throwaway2048 wrote: post #145

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Considering that 80% of mac games got axed with the removal of 32bit support, and approximately 100% of the remaining with the ARM transition, id say they don't use Steam at Apple either.

x86 games will run under emulation on ARM hardware.

Not well, of course. Just passably.
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