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The End of OS X

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Re: The End of OS X

#151

I’ve been unhappy with macOS and Apple for the past few years and in January switched back to developing on a windows PC. I could not be happier with that decision and with the “roadmap” Apple provided yesterday, I expect it will be a long time before I go back to macOS, if ever.

Windows 10 with WSL on premium hardware like Surface is more Mac than Mac at this point

Re: The End of OS X

#152
As a younger hacker, who has never been into the Apple ecosystem and doesn't know much about Steve Jobs, the video presentation of the funeral for MacOS 9 sort of blew me away. It was so funny and theatrical, but got the message of Apple's new direction across so clearly. You can even see people in the front rows standing up and gawking, trying desperately to figure out what was going on. What a fascinating production.

Re: The End of OS X

#153
post #59

> an open platform on top of the tremendous hardware innovation being driven by the iPhone sounds amazing. macOS is anything but open though. If anything, it's completely the opposite, in many senses of being not open. If you want an open platform, use Linux.

Depends on what you call open and what the 'opposite' you refer to is.

Open as in 'welcoming to users'? Open as in 'it has hinges on the device that open'? Open means many things.

If you refer to Open Source in terms of the OSI, then no, macOS is not that kind of open. It's also not entirely closed as there is plenty of 1-to-1 source code available, also under OSI-approved licenses (but not all of it).

If you refer to Open in terms to 'the ability to add and remove at least some components so you can do your work', then macOS is plenty open. Want to get rid of Pages and install Microsoft Word? No problem.

Re: The End of OS X

#155
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is a huge Java shop. They're quite secretive but a very large portion (the great majority?) of their backend is Java. OpenJDK has a Linux/AArch64 port, and it will have a macOS/AArch64 port, too.

Do they currently run their backend on MacOS?

No they do not. They (as some would maybe not expect) even use Oracle software as backend for some systems. But not macOS. Unless you count developer workstations and things like Xcode build servers or their ASD replacement.

Re: The End of OS X

#156

I’ve been unhappy with macOS and Apple for the past few years and in January switched back to developing on a windows PC. I could not be happier with that decision and with the “roadmap” Apple provided yesterday, I expect it will be a long time before I go back to macOS, if ever.

I don't understand how you can get anything done without fighting windows nonsense proprietary tools.

You're complaining about proprietary tools in advocacy of Apple? Developing on Windows is a breeze. Unless you're specifically talking about Microsoft's dev stack (ie Visual Studio).

Re: The End of OS X

#157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The median user who sees their computer as a means to an end is using Windows and saves $300+ doing so and ends up with a computer that stays cool even if it clogs up with dust after a while.

Or they end up like my parents, who had the screen hinge break off on a $400 HP laptop just from daily opening and closing after only a year and a half. Or you end up like my dad who nearly couldn't open a Bid Document because Windows randomly decided to deregister Word's file extensions and spit out an "Unspecified Error" whenever he tried to open a file. The point is, you are very eager to ignore the flaws of the o…

That's a very silly anecdote when so many people in the past 2 years had the keyboards on their $2000+ Macbook Pros break within a year.

And it's an HP, we all know they are terrible.

Re: The End of OS X

#158

> what the company perceives as a weakness: the paucity of apps in the Mac App Store. I think that the issue with the Mac App store, is that it imposes restrictions on a once-free-for-all development environment. I know many app developers that have abandoned it, after giving it a damn fair shake. Mac developers just got used to being able to wander all over the house, poking their noses into whatever they liked. iOS…

I am really curious what will happen to applications like Steam and similar. Will the Mac suddenly find itself in the same restrictions as the iOS App store? Will there even be a separate Mac App Store?

Steam allows for users to apply activation keys paid for outside the client, normally these are sold directly by the game developer but can be the result of a give away. Can that happen in the current App store?

The promises of better performance and all are nice but I am waiting to see if the walls come with it and will Apple pass the savings on to the consumer or lay claim to the increased performance as the reason prices stay the same or get higher.

Re: The End of OS X

#159
As someone still on Mojave and really disappointed with the Mac strategy from Mavericks onwards, I've resigned myself to the idea that my next laptop will not be an MBP. I was enamoured with the original OSX Look&Feel and its unixy underpins; the former is now dead for good (the Big Sur icons are 2001-gnome-level horrendous, and everything is flatter than flat), and the latter dies a little bit more with each release.

I have to admit that I dread going back to the utter boredom of the Microsoft ecosystem, though. I would dearly love a Linux laptop that doesn't make me deaf with fan noise, can last 3 hours of Firefox and Pycharm on a battery charge, and doesn't freak out when waking from sleep. Does such a thing exist yet?

Re: The End of OS X

#160

I've looked at the trajectory of Apple these past few years with mounting bitter-sweetness. At its best, MacOS really felt like the best of Unix combined with the consumer focus alluded to in the article. I still adore the craftsmanship of the latest Macbooks, but my 2015 Macbook felt like the apex of Mac's design. It was the kind of device that was such a pleasure to develop on. You could leverage the power of Unix…

I am a developer and power user. I am incredibly happy with every update from Apple. Unix with good design is exactly what I want from my OS. Sure I can't disassemble my laptop and change the hardware. I have no desire at all to do that. I literally can think of no reason I personally would want to do this, although I imagine there are a tiny fraction of users who would and you may be among them.

Changing the hardware or software yourself is not the point. The point is the monopoly of the manufacturer to repair and modify with huge negative consequences. The lack of right to modify the software leads to unjust power over users [0,1], while the lack of ability to repair hardware leads to unreasonable repair prices, monopoly and environmental damage [2].

[0] https://www.defectivebydesign.org/

[1] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-impor...

[2] https://www.ifixit.com/Right-to-Repair/Intro

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