I’ve been unhappy with macOS and Apple for the past few years and in January switched back to developing on a windows PC. I could not be happier with that decision and with the “roadmap” Apple provided yesterday, I expect it will be a long time before I go back to macOS, if ever.
The End of OS X
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#102I personally think that the MacBook Pro 16 inch is the world’s best laptop, and look forward to see what the next generations can do. But the whole point has been MacOS. I’m not sure what to think of the changes. If they stabilize the mess that was Catalina, then they’re doing the right things, even with the increased iOS-ification of the Mac. If they just slap more Windows 8 style touch gloss on deep and unresolvabl…
Hah, that's great. I'll have to tuck that one away.
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#103> what the company perceives as a weakness: the paucity of apps in the Mac App Store. I think that the issue with the Mac App store, is that it imposes restrictions on a once-free-for-all development environment. I know many app developers that have abandoned it, after giving it a damn fair shake. Mac developers just got used to being able to wander all over the house, poking their noses into whatever they liked. iOS…
On the other hand, what a modern desktop is sorely lacking right now is protecting users and developers from themselves. Whenever I run "npm install" I have to close my eyes and ignore the chills down my spine thinking about how a thousand random npmjs.org account holders just ran their postinstall scripts on my computer with full access to ~/Documents/. The traditional multi-user Unix permission system is no longer…
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
"I suspect that non-App Store apps for the Mac may be seeing the twilight." What about MacOS 11 makes you think this? Literally almost nothing of consequence has changed since Catalina in OS security. Gatekeeper hasn't gotten tighter, you can still disable SIP, homebrew works great.
The move towards "iOSing" the OS. It won't be GateKeeper. It will be policies. They won't make it obvious at all, because they know how unpopular it will be. Let's see what the future brings. I'm not thrilled with it (for example, I have one app that I've written, that uses ffmpeg[0], and ffmpeg no likee sandbox). [0] https://github.com/RiftValleySoftware/RVS_MediaServer
Re: The End of OS X
#105> what the company perceives as a weakness: the paucity of apps in the Mac App Store. I think that the issue with the Mac App store, is that it imposes restrictions on a once-free-for-all development environment. I know many app developers that have abandoned it, after giving it a damn fair shake. Mac developers just got used to being able to wander all over the house, poking their noses into whatever they liked. iOS…
"I suspect that non-App Store apps for the Mac may be seeing the twilight." Obv someone doesn't shop on Steam.
Apple doesn't seem to be particularly worried about it.
For all the hate dumped on Mac as being a "toy" computer, it is a terrible gaming computer. I use it to do work.
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#106What I think a lot of us programmers miss is the experience of the end-users who are likely to buy a Mac. The fact of the matter is, 99.9% of people who buy a Mac are not going to know what subpixel hinting is. Or care too much that they can't delete Chess.app. To them, the Mac is nicer looking and easier to use than ever. Will iOS devs care? Not at all - developing for the Mac has become easier with Catalyst. It's e…
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#107> what the company perceives as a weakness: the paucity of apps in the Mac App Store. I think that the issue with the Mac App store, is that it imposes restrictions on a once-free-for-all development environment. I know many app developers that have abandoned it, after giving it a damn fair shake. Mac developers just got used to being able to wander all over the house, poking their noses into whatever they liked. iOS…
There’s no IRC client with working notifications that doesn’t cost money.
I haven’t found a working gvim port (occasionally broken ones show up.)
I haven’t found an ssh client I like (has key support, has sftp support, has a vte that doesn’t suck) (and no, ish doesn’t count. I shouldn’t have to reinstall my stuff after having my files deleted with no warning every couple weeks.) This is pretty bad for an OS that’s been around for over a decade. I’m pretty sure both palm OS and windows had decent ssh clients after 10 years.
I haven’t found a replacement for wish (which is super useful for flinging together a quick GUI app when someone needs one)
There’s nothing that really replaces AppleScript (shortcuts is more like the goofy graphical automation thing OS X had that uses the same API)
There’s no Arduino IDE
There’s no sync thing port or anything that could even replace it.
No BitTorrent client, no useful mail clients (none of them can download mail in the background) no good alternative podcast/rss clients (see mail) no cron.
And of course lots of little tiny (and some not so tiny) shell utilities that are trivially easy to find on OS X are at best reimplemented badly in awkward apps and more often totally unavailable.
The Mac App Store is more empty than the iOS store but both are nothing compared to the OSX software library.
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#108Re: The End of OS X
#109First OS X was big cats, then it was mountains. Very surprised they didn't switch to a new naming theme! I guess an architecture change was as good a reason as any to revert back to a normal, sane versioning system where the first number increments like most programs. But it's just weird how "unannounced" or unacknowledged it is.
Re: The End of OS X
#110I personally think that the MacBook Pro 16 inch is the world’s best laptop, and look forward to see what the next generations can do. But the whole point has been MacOS. I’m not sure what to think of the changes. If they stabilize the mess that was Catalina, then they’re doing the right things, even with the increased iOS-ification of the Mac. If they just slap more Windows 8 style touch gloss on deep and unresolvabl…
> Linux is only free if your time has no value Hah, that's great. I'll have to tuck that one away.