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SG Mastermind 1: Build from scratch or use existing software?

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SG Mastermind 1: Build from scratch or use existing software?

#1
Dear HN I hope you don't mind me temporarily hijacking 2-3 threads (to use as mastermind sessions) for Startup Guild. No need to vote this up as folks will be arriving here directly from the SG mailing list. (It might actually be better if it can quietly slip off the new section causing as little fuss as possible!)

Dear SG: Should we build the main SG community from scratch, or use existing software?

Hopefully this mastermind thread will resolve this question within the next few days.

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Working Spec (thx Scott)

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1) Forums/Blog Commenting: High lever conversations with the entrepreneur community at large (message board, divided into different topical areas that appeal to different types of entrepreneurs). Process for accepting new members to this community, like verifying their identify and having their posts associated with their real names. I’d also consider walling this off from the public.

2) Private Mastermind Groups: Anyone can create a mastermind group which will have its own private forums. Anyone seeking to join a mastermind group will be subject to a unanimous vote.

a. Include some basic tools to facilitate offline meetings, and (digitally?) signing NDA’s and optional non-competes (each mastermind group can set policies on which docs must be signed)

3) Robust bio pages: Detailed social proof section, Game Mechanic Badges, Give/receive endorsements, detailed bios, ability to follow people’s activity, etc

Note: Game mechanic badges. [$1k/month] [1000/users] etc.

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Existing Software Possibilities (Can they do it?)

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- http://www.ning.com/

- http://buddypress.org/

- http://vanillaforums.org/

- (Know any others?)

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Build From Scratch

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- Who?

- Pay for it?

- Build as open source tool?

- Extend buddy press?

Please chime in, SG needs you!

Re: SG Mastermind 1: Build from scratch or use existing software?

#2
I really think we should build the community first using one of the many tools out there before we start investing time into building something custom. Perhaps we can even use something like basecamp/campfire or talkerapp (I'm willing to pay for the initial costs personally).

The community is the important part but I think something as simple as a Google Group would be enough to prove that it's a community that will be worth being part of. Just my 2c.

Re: SG Mastermind 1: Build from scratch or use existing software?

#4
As a general principle, I think the software platform should be off-the-shelf if possible - to contain costs and management resources. That said, the platform needs to do everything the group requires without too much tweaking.Maybe we could take the open-source remnants of Google Wave and build a customization from there?

Re: SG Mastermind 1: Build from scratch or use existing software?

#5
Use existing tools and as (if) the idea gains traction then consider building tools meeting it's specific needs. There's momentum here, capitalize on it by getting people engaged as opposed to spending a month or two building out a site. You may not have the momentum a month from now!

How about stack exchange? There exists one for onStartups that's pretty good. I'm not suggesting using their community but there's probably a ton we could learn by looking at their questions and answers.

Re: SG Mastermind 1: Build from scratch or use existing software?

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I really think we should build the community first using one of the many tools out there before we start investing time into building something custom. Perhaps we can even use something like basecamp/campfire or talkerapp (I'm willing to pay for the initial costs personally). The community is the important part but I think something as simple as a Google Group would be enough to prove that it's a community that will…

Agree with grace 100%.

Also signing NDAs might turn people away. I would try to be as casual and organic with this as possible to start with.

Re: SG Mastermind 1: Build from scratch or use existing software?

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As a general principle, I think the software platform should be off-the-shelf if possible - to contain costs and management resources. That said, the platform needs to do everything the group requires without too much tweaking.Maybe we could take the open-source remnants of Google Wave and build a customization from there?

As a big fan of Google Wave, I like this idea a lot. Although if I remember correctly it had huge performance issues with waves that had many concurrent users. That might take a little too much tweaking to fix for it to be worth it.

Re: SG Mastermind 1: Build from scratch or use existing software?

#9
The mere fact that you ask this question is usually an indicator that you should go with existing solutions. If you had a compelling reason in mind not to use off-the-shelf solutions, you'd not bother asking, and if you don't have a compelling reason in mind, why bother? This is obviously not always true, but is rather a general rule, but it's a good one to keep in mind.

Re: SG Mastermind 1: Build from scratch or use existing software?

#10
First off, I LOVE the idea. I think serial entrepreneurs like myself NEED this and it will grow into a thriving community of benevolent contributors (and hopefully less flaming)

while I think it would be great to see it built from scratch putting it all in the hands of one person seems to be asking too much, then comes the question of who does the upkeep, who fixes the outages etc.

I think Open Source is probably the best way see this project through

Why not just start a git repository on github (private) and start a group on a site like fridge to discuss what's going on/have the beginnings of the community while we all work on it together.

Anyone who forks the project and submits accepted code gets some sort of badge in their profile along with credit for helping and being a "founding member" so to speak.

Open a WePay group for the SG so donations can be accepted for server costs, hardware etc.

I think ultimately this can be a passionate community of people who do lots of good, who knows what can grow out of an idea like this. Let's take the time to do it right and make sure all who come can receive sound advice from seasoned professionals in a manner which is better for all parties

Zach

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