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Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

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I have been reading Slate Star Codex for a long time and consider it a source of many great texts, but i do not really get this step from Scott Alexander. Term 'doxxing' is a loaded term that may describe both revealing private information and revealing personal information researchable from public sources. While the former is condemnable, the later is more neutral and part of basic journalist work, especially if the…

Doxxing is new term reflecting new online norms. This strikes me as a clash of internet culture and traditional newspaper culture.

Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

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Same here, I'm trying to cancel now and they actually don't have a one click to stop the subscription.

Other comments on this thread are suggesting switching the mode of payment to PayPal which let's you cancel instantly. Or credit card chargebacks if you can document that you exhausted reasonable efforts to ask NYT to cancel the subscription

You can also use privacy.com to create virtual credit cards that'll allow you to block transactions.

Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

#793

I stopped trusting reporters about 35 years ago, when I personally witnessed an occurrence, where a reporter was at the scene, and later read what he had written about it in the newspaper. It had practically nothing to do with what really happened, but was written in a way that most of their readers would most likely expect and endorse. I was still very young then, but it opened my eyes, and from then on, I mostly st…

I would like to caution anyone reading the comments to be skeptical of posts that push to erode your faith in journalism. There has been an alarming trend of people pushing a narrative that news organizations cannot be trusted. It is a toxic attack on one of the most important components in a functional democratic republic.

Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

#794
What is an appropriate theory of when a journalist should reveal the name of someone who doesn't want that name revealed?

Some simplistic possibilities:

1. Never.

2. Always.

3. Don't, if they're a 'good' person. Do, if they're a 'bad' person.

My theory is that it's a sliding scale, depending on one's judgement of the following:

Where does this person fit on the public/private scale? The more public a person, the less right to privacy.

How influential is this person? The more influential, the less right to privacy.

How much of what brought them into public interest was of their own choice?

What threats might the person come under if the name is revealed. The greater the threat, the more right to privacy. Also, are these threats physical, economic, or social?

How sophisticated is the person? Do they know what reporters do for a living? Do they understand the conventions of "off the record" and "pre-interview negotiations"?

I'd like to see more discussion of this and less of "cancel my subscription."

Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

#795

I have become increasingly frustrated with the NYT's reporting practices. They are very hypocritical about criticizing tech while continuing to advertise heavily on the same services they criticize to promote their journalism. A lot of what they publish nowadays is often "technically correct" but misleading to the point of being dangerous. That, combined with the philosophy of the younger journalists working there to…

> NYT feeds off of bipartisan hatred and conflict in order to make money This is how every newspaper that is reliant on ad views for revenue operates. You'll notice the ones that depend more on subscriptions , like Financial Times and WSJ, are noticeably less clickbaity or intentionally provocative. Also, I'll go out on a limb and guess that you work at Facebook - aren't you guilty of the same thing? Sowing ideologic…

Edit: OP originally I said "I work at one of the companies that nyt constantly disparages," hence my last line. He edited that out after I posted my reply, so my comment now sounds snipey and out of place. I figure FB is a fair guess for the intersection of his remark and HN audience.

Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

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post #794

What is an appropriate theory of when a journalist should reveal the name of someone who doesn't want that name revealed? Some simplistic possibilities: 1. Never. 2. Always. 3. Don't, if they're a 'good' person. Do, if they're a 'bad' person. My theory is that it's a sliding scale, depending on one's judgement of the following: Where does this person fit on the public/private scale? The more public a person, the less…

How much does it add to reveal the name?

If it's about a blog and its content, I don't see what is won by adding the name of the author if they don't agree. Quite the opposite literally in this case.

Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

#798

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Traditionally, newspapers' Opinion and Editorial sections have solicited contributions from major political figures. The Wall Street Journal, for instance, has run the following: "The Change We Need" (by Barack Obama) "A Partisan Impeachment, a Profile in Courage" (by Mike Pence) "I Can Defeat Trump and the Clinton Doctrine" (by Tulsi Gabbard) "Blame the Fed for the Financial Crisis" (by Ron Paul) "How Short-Termism…

This is stunning false equivalence. None of the opinions you offered are similar to Tom Cotton’s apologia for “sending in the tanks”. The NYT Opinions section is still, for better or worse, still quite diverse in its opinions. Ross Douthat and David Brooks are not leaving anytime soon.

If you go back in time, the NY Times used to print a lot more conservative op-eds. For example, here's a classic, where William F Buckley, a well known conservative (from a different vein than modern conservatives) proposes tattooing a red letter A on the buttons of gay men infected with HIV:

http://movies2.nytimes.com/books/00/07/16/specials/buckley-a...

Cotton could have written a far better editorial and people would complain a lot less. I tried to read it giving him the best intentions but it didn't take long to realize that he really just wanted to send out the military to beat people up.

Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

#799

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I literally laughed out loud at this. And then I realized you are actually serious and I pondered the decline of Western civilization. And to be clear, the claim is that the NYT "cancelled" this blog by easily finding who the author is. No, the author cancelled this blog because they feel uncomfortable correlating the things they say with their professional persona. He could have done a better job with anonymity if t…

> where their opinion amazingly veered far right on virtually every topic If you think SSC, the blog that sources anything remotely controversial, is alt-right for the conclusions it comes to... Maybe you should show the issues in the logic that led him there? But I think you're doing a great job of demonstrating why he's afraid of having his name published.

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Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

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Great post. I wish more people would genuinely listen to those they disagree with. When we shut people down or make them feel uncomfortable/threatened to the point that they won't speak, what have we gained?

this forum literally hides opinions people disagree with. The up and down arrow are really bad icons for UX.

The [-] allows you to hide the most popular threads and dig for hidden gold. I do this often.
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