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My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how NYPD impunity works

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Re: My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how NYPD impunity works

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My wife was in Indianapolis for a couple days and she saw the same thing: a cop crossed over to the wrong side of the road and up onto the sidewalk to strike an unarmed black man on a bicycle head on. They claimed later that the man on the bike had struck the car while it was sitting still (hard enough to put him in the hospital with a fractured skull). No investigation was made. I think they do this because running people over or choking them to death produces less paperwork than shooting them.

Re: My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how NYPD impunity works

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This is why we need civilian oversight of every police department. Cops are generally too corrupt and/or too incompetent to investigate their own. They've proven their inability to hold themselves accountable for their actions, so it's up to the rest of us to do it.

Or we could abolish the police and create a new public safety department without the structural racism and ingrained power-hungry culture.

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The NYPD has a budget for spying on people in other countries. State power is weird.

Strictly speaking, that is not in their budget. Comes from anonymous donors [1]. Nothing strange about that. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/nyregion/terrorism-nypd-i...

OK, that's weird. It doesn't entirely come as a surprise that they would have an international arm, since they are home to the UN and were the most visible target of the most prominent international terrorist attack. But having that money come anonymously... that's suspicious.

Re: My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how NYPD impunity works

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Why is "Black" capitalized, but "white" is not?

I don't know what style guide ProPublica uses, but very recently AP decided to capitalize Black when used as a cultural term when it conveys "essential and shared sense of history, identity and community among people who identify as Black". They go on to say that they expect to make a decision soon about whether to do that with "white" as well.

https://blog.ap.org/announcements/the-decision-to-capitalize... https://apnews.com/71386b46dbff8190e71493a763e8f45a

Re: My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how NYPD impunity works

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Why is "Black" capitalized, but "white" is not?

“For many people, Black reflects a shared sense of identity and community. White carries a different set of meanings; capitalizing the word in this context risks following the lead of white supremacists.”

https://www.cjr.org/analysis/capital-b-black-styleguide.php

Re: My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how NYPD impunity works

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My wife was in Indianapolis for a couple days and she saw the same thing: a cop crossed over to the wrong side of the road and up onto the sidewalk to strike an unarmed black man on a bicycle head on. They claimed later that the man on the bike had struck the car while it was sitting still (hard enough to put him in the hospital with a fractured skull). No investigation was made. I think they do this because running…

Most Officer on the job injury and death comes from traffic accidents. Driving all day is dangerous. We should log Police Officer hours the same way we do truck drivers.

Re: My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how NYPD impunity works

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I've lived here a long time and come to the realization through observation that the NYPD operates like a private security force for capital. Their primary concern is to defend private property, the people themselves come second. The "community outreach" they do is just enough to keep us from getting accusatory.

Most police in the world works like this. The only exception to this rule is countries like Japan, Switzerland and Singapore.

In those countries, as a working class citizen you can rely on the police to make sure to keep monopoly on violence and keep you safe, when they fail to do so, they will at least bring some level of justice to whoever did you wrong - though less in Switzerland than I'd like.

At least the US offers weapons for your own protection. In parts of Europe you just have to accept being sexually assaulted or stabbed.

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I've lived here a long time and come to the realization through observation that the NYPD operates like a private security force for capital. Their primary concern is to defend private property, the people themselves come second. The "community outreach" they do is just enough to keep us from getting accusatory.

> Their primary concern is to defend private property, the people themselves come second. And of course the more private property one has, the better the protection...

Until someone decides that the capital committed a drug crime because it smelled suspicious.

Re: My family saw a police car hit a kid, then I learned how NYPD impunity works

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strictly speaking, that is not in their budget. Comes from anonymous donors [1]. Nothing strange about that. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/nyregion/terrorism-nypd-i...

OK, that 's weird. It doesn't entirely come as a surprise that they would have an international arm, since they are home to the UN and were the most visible target of the most prominent international terrorist attack. But having that money come anonymously... that's suspicious.

Still weird.

The FBI and the rest of our national security apparatus exist to deal with those issues.

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