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Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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post #124

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Well sure, they get to do whatever they want, you're right. It's their community they're moderating. We agree. That wasn't what I was asking-however.

I think it's probably warranted some of the time, mostly around topics where much heat but little light is generated.

How does this method avoid the moderators implicit bias? Unless we get actual sitting judges how can these people be neutral and not impose their bias on what light is?

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Reddit's issue is the issue of so many ad supported websites. Clicks sell ads and controversy draws more clicks than anything else. It's been clear over the last few years that the popular subreddits are the ones that have the most dramatic content. Smaller subreddit do tend to have better discourse though until eventually, they get large enough to become popular and start to become the same echo chambers.

First, big brands don't want controversy displayed next to their ads. This is likely behind some moves Reddit has made in the past to clean things up. Second, I'm curious what % of revenue comes from user-purchased post and comment awards from gold. I've noticed those in use quite a bit in some more inflammatory subs like /r/politics. I wonder how they vet payments from users to avoid providing a way for hostile acto…

Big brands don't want to be advertised on r/watchpeopledie but probably have no issue with being advertised on r/relationshipadvice which is almost entirely a sub about controversy and thus drives clicks and revenue.

I've done some searching and it seems that reddit gold is a pretty small piece of the reddit revenue. Campaigns start at $50,000 with Reddit Ad's.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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First, big brands don't want controversy displayed next to their ads. This is likely behind some moves Reddit has made in the past to clean things up. Second, I'm curious what % of revenue comes from user-purchased post and comment awards from gold. I've noticed those in use quite a bit in some more inflammatory subs like /r/politics. I wonder how they vet payments from users to avoid providing a way for hostile acto…

Big brands don't want to be advertised on r/watchpeopledie but probably have no issue with being advertised on r/relationshipadvice which is almost entirely a sub about controversy and thus drives clicks and revenue. I've done some searching and it seems that reddit gold is a pretty small piece of the reddit revenue. Campaigns start at $50,000 with Reddit Ad's.

Oh I just found this: https://www.feedough.com/reddit-make-money-reddit-business-m...

Reddit made close to 1 million in revenue from Reddit gold in 2016.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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There is an alternative to the group think/hive mind called https://gab.com/ but it’s also a cesspool or horrible people sharing horrible ideas. Not sure what makes sense.

>but it’s also a cesspool or horrible people sharing horrible ideas This is not coincidental. The same thing happened with Voat, the same thing is happening with Ruqqus. I'm sure some not-awful stuff will end up as collateral damage here, but Reddit is attempting to target the communities of people that are promoting and engaging in some pretty heinous activities and lines of thought. When those are the people leavin…

The presence of content that is extremely inadmissible for Big Tech is a good sign in my book. It's very easy to select the type of content you actually want to see.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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post #270

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Indeed, it was removed by moderators. Here’s the OP’s response: https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/h9ctho/serious_a... Edit: another user determined it was both removed and deleted.

https://i.imgur.com/pkzrm25.png

maybe it's because you use the "redesign"?

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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post #27

Reddit has been compromised with actors who do not have free speech in their best interest. The other day there was an illuminating ask reddit post about transexuals who decided to transition back and their experiences. That post got promptly removed by moderators; even though there was no hateful content within it at all. They effectively silenced the transexual population due to an ever so slight conflict of ideolo…

>Reddit is dead and no one I know uses it anymore. It's not dead, and I say thankfully because it not being dead retains its state as a containment mechanism of what is easily the worst group of internet users in internet history. I fear for the day Reddit falls and its userbase spills out looking for another avenue to be comforted with groupthink, newspeak and feel goods for the Brands We Love.

Yep reddit is increasing its conformity and intolerance to dissent at a very quick pace, maybe because it's election year? But in the past such forays have been one way only.

As the subs where you can speak with some degree of openness are ever smaller, it's not worth the time anymore.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Reddits values aren't the same as yours. This isn't a bad thing. It's not like Reddit has monopoly powers. Some people want to belong to communities that have agreed-upon values.

But the community would be a subreddit, not the site reddit.com, which is far too heterogeneous to be considered some kind of community.

That was the idea years ago, but they completely abandoned it.

https://archive.vn/KojNR#selection-7875.0-7947.5

Brief recap on its current state of affairs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqx4wdn4Odc (18 minutes and change)

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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post #385
post #270

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https://i.imgur.com/pkzrm25.png

maybe it's because you use the "redesign"?

One of the problems I have is that as a moderator on some subreddits I have issues if I don't use the new reddit site. I prefer the old site much more but find it annoying to have to flip flop back and forth so I have settled on the crapdesign.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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post #111

I don't think Reddit should be able to censor lawful content and also claim protections under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. If they want to police lawful content that is fine but then they are no longer an open platform and they should forfeit their Section 230 protections. I dislike the ability for online platforms to have their cake of protection against lawsuits and also eat their cake of policing…

So no site should be allowed to have moderation policies that include things like "no trolling," "no flaming," "no swearing," or anything like else like that for things that don't cross into "illegal" abusive speech? Without becoming a target for filling up with illegal shit to overwhelm the moderators and cause legal trouble for the owners? So HN is gone, too, then.

I think you are, sadly, completely correct. And that is why Section 230 in IMO unworkable as it was conceived, as it provides exceptions on a justification that is completely false.

Honestly I don't see what's the best alternative. Probably the segregation of comment platforms and sites. If Section 230 were to be substituted with something effective in regards of speech protection, or conversely the right of platforms to curate comments, then still this would only apply to the US and it would be a significant factor to move the comments elsewhere.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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post #8

Eventually reddit will go the way of digg and fade into irrelevance.

Can't happen soon enough. The days where forums were the defacto place for discussion were just better. The communities would self-police and alternative opinions weren't suppressed nearly as easily. Reddit is a meme slideshow, not a place for discussion.

It's a matter of scale. As size grows, rules become harder to enforce and the amount of comments that would derail conversations sky-rocket. Living under the same rules globally, esp. across ideologies and world-views, is a disaster for everyone.
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