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Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

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Post by RcouF1uZ4gsC »

seven4 wrote: post #4

Edit: I'm 50:50 on whether they take the negative press hit of publishing this anyway. If they publish without name included - everyone still finds out the name of the "flippant" writer. If they don't it just concedes that their attitude was wrong to begin with. They are in a tough spot now - hard to feel sorry for them given the asympathetic position they assumed. ~~~ SlateStarCodex shutting down in direct response…

> why despite legitimate concerns are your writers comfortable doxxing people?

This is especially important to ask when a big complaint of the NYT staff about the Tom Cotton is editorial was that it was directly endangering their safety.

Apparently the NYT does not have the same concern about other’s safety.

Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

#32

Post by Meekro »

Remember when Newsweek found this random guy named Dorian Nakamoto and told the world that he was Satoshi Nakamoto, creator of Bitcoin? They were almost certainly wrong and the guy got harassed for years.

Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

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Post by femiagbabiaka »

heavyset_go wrote: post #18

I'd take what Scott Alexander has to say about this with a grain of salt. He is a bit obsessed with people who criticize him on the internet, going as far as to write about his borderline paranoid suspicions behind people making fun of him online in several of his blog posts. Some people can't handle the judgment that comes with being a somewhat public figure, and Scott is one of them.

Exactly this. And the community plays into it. They imagine themselves to be Galileo —- persecuted by the state and society just for telling the truth.

Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

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Post by [deleted] »

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #31
seven4 wrote: post #4

Edit: I'm 50:50 on whether they take the negative press hit of publishing this anyway. If they publish without name included - everyone still finds out the name of the "flippant" writer. If they don't it just concedes that their attitude was wrong to begin with. They are in a tough spot now - hard to feel sorry for them given the asympathetic position they assumed. ~~~ SlateStarCodex shutting down in direct response…

> why despite legitimate concerns are your writers comfortable doxxing people? This is especially important to ask when a big complaint of the NYT staff about the Tom Cotton is editorial was that it was directly endangering their safety. Apparently the NYT does not have the same concern about other’s safety.

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Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

#35

Post by Findeton »

sxp wrote: post #5

> He told me it would be a mostly positive piece about how we were an interesting gathering place for people in tech, and how we were ahead of the curve on some aspects of the coronavirus situation. It probably would have been a very nice article. Unfortunately, he told me he had discovered my real name and would reveal it in the article, ie doxx me. ... When I expressed these fears to the reporter, he just said that…

He could also name the NYT reporter.

Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

#36

Post by matt_f »

If you're pissed off by this, as I am, here's how the author politely suggests that you direct your support:

> There is no comments section for this post. The appropriate comments section is the feedback page of the New York Times. You may also want to email the New York Times technology editor Pui-Wing Tam at pui-wing.tam@nytimes.com, contact her on Twitter at @puiwingtam, or phone the New York Times at 844-NYTNEWS

> (please be polite – I don’t know if Ms. Tam was personally involved in this decision, and whoever is stuck answering feedback forms definitely wasn’t. Remember that you are representing me and the SSC community, and I will be very sad if you are a jerk to anybody. Please just explain the situation and ask them to stop doxxing random bloggers for clicks.)

Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

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Post by davesque »

matt_f wrote: post #36

If you're pissed off by this, as I am, here's how the author politely suggests that you direct your support: > There is no comments section for this post. The appropriate comments section is the feedback page of the New York Times. You may also want to email the New York Times technology editor Pui-Wing Tam at pui-wing.tam@nytimes.com, contact her on Twitter at @puiwingtam, or phone the New York Times at 844-NYTNEWS…

Note that the author also requests that people be polite in doing so. Everyone please model the behavior you want to see in this reporter.

Update: Thanks OP for updating to include a note about this.

Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

#38

Post by ipsum2 »

Findeton wrote: post #35
sxp wrote: post #5

> He told me it would be a mostly positive piece about how we were an interesting gathering place for people in tech, and how we were ahead of the curve on some aspects of the coronavirus situation. It probably would have been a very nice article. Unfortunately, he told me he had discovered my real name and would reveal it in the article, ie doxx me. ... When I expressed these fears to the reporter, he just said that…

He could also name the NYT reporter.

Why would he stoop that low?

Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

#39

Post by jakeogh »

chillacy wrote: post #14

This is a tragedy, Scott Alexander is such a thoughtful writer. I wish journalists would come up with some professional standards and make the title licensed, like doctor or lawyer. Right now we all recognize how important journalism is but journalists themselves run the gamut from ethical investigative journalists to clickbait manufacturers. Imagine if journalists also had to adhere to the equivalent of attorney cli…

A journalism license? I struggle to come up with a worse solution... No.

Re: I Am Deleting the Blog

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Post by ericzawo »

chillacy wrote: post #14

This is a tragedy, Scott Alexander is such a thoughtful writer. I wish journalists would come up with some professional standards and make the title licensed, like doctor or lawyer. Right now we all recognize how important journalism is but journalists themselves run the gamut from ethical investigative journalists to clickbait manufacturers. Imagine if journalists also had to adhere to the equivalent of attorney cli…

I 100% agree and talked about this a lot in j school. Would love to see some type of society body emerge with a coalition of Pulitzer Prize winners (the only real framework that possibly stands to live past the inevitable calls about its legitimacy from the News Corp -owned bodies of media, honestly) and ideally backed by the biggest news media companies in the world. I would love to see a further membership based element where members of the public and journalists could critique reportage and possible ethical lapses all publicly, adhering to principles set by the society itself.

Honestly I think it's time journalists take back some of the responsibility and importance of their roles that's been stripped by colleague and company malpractice (and the side effects of a business model twisted inside out in rapid succession), as many DO recognize their importance. But like politics any real "talk" of media quickly devolves into sports-like tribalism and never gets beyond hating the 'players' not the game itself.

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