What’s New in macOS Big Sur: Human Interface Guidelines

Post by HeadsUpHigh » Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 5:51 AM UTC

mxcrossb wrote: post #46

dimmke wrote: post #18

I have to be honest and go completely against the crowd here - but I think the UI updates are very good. They make the two OSes look cohesive but in a tasteful way. The extra padding in all of the UI is the only thing that I chafe at a little bit, it feels unnecessary. I really don't think they're going to put out touch screen Macs. So I'm not sure what there is to get upset about. I don't see any big functional chan…

Well that and the fact that tech website users basically complain about every UI change. Hacker News is full of people who think XFCE is the height of desktop experience. This is fundamentally different than apple’s core fan base who seem to like any change just for the sake of change.

Post by bjelkeman-again » Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 5:55 AM UTC

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #137

codyb wrote: post #123

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This is a bit off topic but in regards to contrast, I’ve been using Apple’s Music program lately and I absolutely cannot tell the difference between shuffle/repeat on or off. It is the lowest amount of contrast I have ever seen on a toggled button. I figure it must be something with my machine but haven’t really delved too deeply and couldn’t find much when I looked. Was hoping for a bit more out of Music. It’s decen…

I don't think it's your machine, although I hadn't tested this until now because I almost never use shuffle. :) I think the problem is that they're indicating state by toggling between your chosen accent color and black. If your accent color is, say, pink, the difference is pretty obvious, but if your accent color is relatively dark, like blue or purple, it's harder to see. It seems like they could solve this by togg…

Post by jbverschoor » Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 6:06 AM UTC

woah wrote: post #210

michaelmrose wrote: post #176

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I still don't understand how anyone with hundreds of billions of dollars ships really crappy anything. Like do hundreds of people just pretend that a crappy keyboard isn't garbage or is it so siloed that most people never get an opportunity to register an opinion?

The keyboard isn't that bad. It had reliability issues which suggest a failure of their stress testing, but it wasn't somehow obviously broken when it shipped

Post by cerberusss » Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 6:08 AM UTC

_rs wrote: post #166

_bxg1 wrote: post #126

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macOS installers exist; I think they were used more commonly before the .app format, but that's how you get the Windows situation where the "uninstall" operation is a crapshoot because relevant files are scattered across your system. I don't know the exact purpose behind the "mount a virtual drive to install an app" model, but it seems far too deliberate to not have a purpose.

To be fair, there is no supported way to uninstall a .app with all of the scattered files, either (all of the things it places in ~/Library to run, like preferences). For me, AppCleaner is one of the first things I download on a new machine.

  % brew uninstall 

  % brew zap 

Post by jevgeni » Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 6:21 AM UTC

oblio wrote: post #48

hyperpape wrote: post #41

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Looks like they've been selling around 18 million macs a year ( https://www.statista.com/statistics/263444/sales-of-apple-ma... ). If you ignore individuals having multiple computers, and assume the average lifetime of a machine is 5 years, you get 90 million people with a Mac. I don't know how many developers there are, but saw 20-25 million in some estimates.

The vast majority of developed worldwide are using crummy Windows laptops and developing internal enterprise software :-) At best Macs probably have a marketshare of 30% among developers. The US and big tech companies are outliers regarding Mac usage.