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NYC passes POST Act, requiring police department to reveal surveillance tech

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, but I don't believe there is.

Pity. Thanks for the confirmation that I wasn't missing something obvious, at least.

If you need something like that in specific cases you can always email hn@ycombinator.com.

Re: NYC passes POST Act, requiring police department to reveal surveillance tech

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I'm glad that NYC's dystopic Domain Awareness system gets some coverage here. However it's curious that Microsoft isn't mentioned at all in the article - even though every inch of this abomination is entirely Microsoft's creation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Awareness_System

That "system" seems to be bleeding into every American street. What do you make of the white square facing right at the top right of the image? What is that one "sensing"?

Re: NYC passes POST Act, requiring police department to reveal surveillance tech

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I'm glad that NYC's dystopic Domain Awareness system gets some coverage here. However it's curious that Microsoft isn't mentioned at all in the article - even though every inch of this abomination is entirely Microsoft's creation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Awareness_System

That "system" seems to be bleeding into every American street. What do you make of the white square facing right at the top right of the image? What is that one "sensing"?

I would guess that it's an antenna.

Re: NYC passes POST Act, requiring police department to reveal surveillance tech

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that these violent criminals are in the extreme minority; while certainly police need to be trained to handle them, they also need to be trained to handle the other 99% of the people they will encounter, who are not violent. But they aren't, so they revert to treating everyone as if they were a violent criminal fractions of a second away from attacking them. That's why we have the problem of police bru…

The majority of victims of police brutality (at least deaths by police, of course there are other forms of police brutality but killings by police is what the current conversation is about) are violent criminals. Of the ~1000 people killed by police in 2019 538 were armed with a gun, 159 with a knife, 60 with a vehicle, and 63 with another weapon. 41 were unarmed, 23 had a toy weapon, and 49 is unknown. [0] The major…

Given US gun culture, I would not immediately classify "has a gun/knife" as "violent criminal". And even for people who could potentially be violent, how many of those police shootings involved a suspect that had actually drawn their weapon and/or was behaving aggressively with it? And if we're talking about self-reporting by cops, I don't think we should take their assessment of the situation at their word without some sort of corroboration.

Regardless, even if the police killed some 1000 armed people during a year, so what? 1000 is certainly a tiny sub-1% fraction of total interactions. If anything, you're only supporting my assertion that the vast majority of people the police have to deal with are non-violent and can be dealt with using non-leathal force, or little to no force at all.

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