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Post by wtallis »

WorldMaker wrote: post #265
AlexandrB wrote: post #110

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> cleaning up and using a consistent design language across platforms This is not a positive. A laptop is not a big iPhone and shouldn't use the same design language. One of the worst thing about Windows 10 is its use of huge, touch-friendly interfaces in an OS most commonly used with a keyboard and mouse. MacOS appears to be headed the same way (and it doesn't even support touch screens).

Per Fitz's Law, touch-friendly is mouse friendly. The larger the click target the faster and easier it is to click, especially as the distance between the current mouse position and the target increases. It's a huge mouse accessibility win to design touch-first target sizes, and there's decades of UX research on that topic. Just because the mouse is precise enough to do it doesn't mean that users should have to "360…

> Per Fitz's Law, touch-friendly is mouse friendly.

That's only true to an extent. It stops being true when the low-density UI re-design forces the user to take more actions to accomplish the same task. If I have to dig through a deeper menu structure, or flip back an forth between pages instead of having the information all on-screen at once, that change is touch-friendly but hostile to desktop and many laptop users.

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Post by dvtrn »

Cycling directions on Apple Maps has me more excited than it probably should. I like a LOT of what they’ve done to improve Maps since they entered the space and this was sorely missing for me

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Post by thesquib »

jakebellacera wrote: post #194
thesquib wrote: post #168

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I'm still afraid to run Catalina. I have to use it on one laptop (me hardware) an it is slow and problematic. I've had actual system crashes. I can't remember the last time that happened pre Catalina

I can't remember the last time I've had a crash on Catalina. That being said, I did do a clean install when I upgraded out of fear of issues. Not sure if that had something to do with it.

I had a new computer pre installed with Catalina

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Post by knolan »

CharlesW wrote: post #102
knolan wrote: post #100

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I’ve a major 10.15 issue on two Macs where doing any kind of calculation in Spotlight maxes out all cores on the CPU for 10-15 minutes.

Friend, it's time for a clean install. You should never have to do one, but macOS isn't yet iPadOS, and cruft happens.

It’s a new 16” that I set up new.

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Post by 72deluxe »

dijit wrote: post #282
throwaway894345 wrote: post #196

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I will say I really like the lock button and the touch ID integration. I hate the lack of physical escape key (especially for vim); however, they are fixing that on many (most? all?) new models. Mostly I'm pretty meh about the touch bar. Not sure how much cost it's adding, but I'd probably rather they reduce the cost.

FWIW, escape is actually slower (both in movement speed and in actual invokation) than ^[. lit: `CTRL+[` I know habits die hard, and "you're holding it wrong" is not a valid excuse- and I know that I also dislike massively not having an escape key. But for vim specifically; there is an escape sequence and the escape key is an alternative method for that. (similar to how the arrows "work" but hjkl is the "real" way of…

So you’re saying that pressing two keys is faster than pressing one key? In which universe??

Is eating 2 sandwiches also faster than eating one?

Are 2 electrical impulses also faster than 1?

I think not.

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Post by 72deluxe »

swagonomixxx wrote: post #211
lou1306 wrote: post #142

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App notarization works by hashing binaries and sending said hashes to Apple. Here you go: https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/catalina-executables.htm...

What the actual f*ck. Thanks for the link. Looks like I'll need Little Snitch...

Little Snitch is good but what happens if the kernel can’t get a binary approved to run??

And people complained about Windows 10 telemetry.

Last time I run macOS. Time to return to Linux (Pop OS I think)

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Post by 72deluxe »

ultrarunner wrote: post #250
fareesh wrote: post #210

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Is it uncommon for folks to use a Linux desktop as their primary OS? I've been doing so for about 10 years and I've had no complaints. Whenever I need some specific software I boot to Windows or use Virtualbox. I also have a Macbook Pro 2015

Unified keyboard shortcuts and I'd be all there. I've come kinda close-ish in Elementary, but it's still clunky enough that I can't commit full-time.

I used to use Linux as a daily driver until switching to macOS because I wanted to get stuff done instead of faffing around and learning edge cases for every app. I used to use KDE 3.5 which was near perfect and didn’t require learning new methods of using a computer for each app, but then KDE4 and GNOME3 got released which was like stepping backwards 20 years.

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head that unified interactions (and with the keyboard, not some dumb new hamburger menu for mouse users like the new gedit) are what’s required and missing for speedy daily use. I couldn’t articulate it until reading your comment, thanks.

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Post by adambware »

chadlavi wrote: post #252
adambware wrote: post #193

They've added padding to the design nearly everywhere - "menu bar is now taller", "Dock is lifted from the bottom", and the extra padding on the Sidebars is obvious. As a power user of a Macbook Pro, this is cutting into my screen real estate and not very appealing to me.

If you're a power user, you probably know that you can hide the dock and the menubar

My dock is tiny and pinned to the right so I can use as much vertical space as possible. This might push me to adopt hiding the menubar.

It's more about the compounding effect when other apps adopt this more spacious UI pattern for their title bar, sidebar, etc.

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