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Post by Smoosh »

wycy wrote: post #125
AnonC wrote: post #34

The UI and UX seem to be getting worse on macOS with the “iOSification” of the OS. I thought Jony Ive’s exit would stop that trend. It’ll be interesting to read perspectives from John Gruber, M J Tsai, Marco Arment, etc. I still haven’t upgraded from Mojave to Catalina because of serious bugs reported by other people (including data loss issues in Mail). I’ll see if Big Sur shows improvements (reported by others) and…

Catalina is the one and only macOS upgrade I regret doing. It has mostly been bug-free, but I was surprised how much software no longer works due to the 64-bit change.

I haven't upgraded because my Fujitsu scanner only has 32 bit drivers. I'll have to come up with a kludge using SANE.

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Post by Nition »

lisper wrote: post #15

IMHO Apple's design jumped the shark a long time ago. Even apart from the aesthetics of the "flat" look, which I like about as much as fingernails on a chalkboard, Apple has completely abandoned the principles that made the original Mac great: ease of use and discoverability. Once upon a time it was easy to tell where the affordances were, what you could click on, editable vs non-editable text. Nowadays everything lo…

Unfortunately you can replace Apple with Microsoft here and say the exact same thing.

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

dylan604 wrote: post #259
fareesh wrote: post #210

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Is it uncommon for folks to use a Linux desktop as their primary OS? I've been doing so for about 10 years and I've had no complaints. Whenever I need some specific software I boot to Windows or use Virtualbox. I also have a Macbook Pro 2015

>Is it uncommon for folks to use a Linux desktop as their primary OS? Serious question? Otherwise I have to respond with LOL. Only people inside the tech bubble would think a Linux desktop was normal, and even inside the tech bubble you truly have to have a reason. The largest install of Linux as a desktop for a company I've seen has been at a post house where all of the software ran on Linux. The users only used it…

Welcome to this website. It's name is "Hacker News". The name, in case you didn't guess, comes from the main demographic that it targets/is driven by.

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Post by tarsinge »

jbverschoor wrote: post #233
untog wrote: post #214

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Why does it need to be compared to any OS? One of the reasons I switched to Mac was the OS X was far more stable than Windows. I still want a stable OS.

I have biweekly kernel panics on macOS... somewhere in the io sub system. Luckily vscode etc store their state

I had maybe one or two kernel panics since OS 10.1 more than 15 years ago, even with hackintoshes or water damaged MacBooks, so that would be a real shame if that’s due to Catalina and it’s not a hardware problem.

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Post by tamarok »

Fej wrote: post #147
WA9ACE wrote: post #96

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I wonder how this will affect java minecraft on the mac. Does LWJGL have a Metal backend?

It does not appear to have a Metal backend - just OpenGL and Vulkan. From what I can tell, commercial game devs treat Mac gaming as an edge case and mostly only the large engine devs care about Metal support (with exceptions, of course).

It looks like Minecraft is already using Metal. LWJGL makes use of other low level APIs by means of BGFX, since version 3.1.0 (per release notes) and Metal is one of the current targets.

Looking at a running 1.15 Minecraft instance I see it is using lwjgl 3.2.1 and there a link to "net.java.openjdk.cmd/com.apple.metal", when I do an lsof.

Any further insight would be appreciated.

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Post by fphhotchips »

philjohn wrote: post #216
protonimitate wrote: post #134

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The Touch Bar is honestly by least favorite aspect of anything Apple has done in recent memory. My touch bar had dead pixels (twice), effectively wiping out half the function keys. And when it did work, it was hard to use. I've been using my MBP as a desktop for the past 8+ months, and while it's slightly better experience, it still sucks that I'm stuck having to buy 3 USB adapters just to make it usable.

I know this answer is "buy something else to make your life eaiser" but hear me out - either a USB-C monitor, or a thunderbolt dock. I got a USB-C monitor last time I upgraded (LG 27" 4K) and having a single cable to plug in, which not only carries the display signal, but also charges my MBP, AND carries the USB signal so that I can plug wired keyboard and anything else into the hub in the monitor still feels ridicul…

Yeah, sure, but at least on my Macbook Pro 16, Thunderbolt/USB-C monitors both instantly make the area near the touch bar hot enough so as to be uncomfortable to the touch.

If you're sharing a screen via video conference, you can easily hit 90c, with the CPU throttling hard the whole time.

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Post by reaperducer »

iNerdier wrote: post #119
CharlesW wrote: post #102

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Friend, it's time for a clean install. You should never have to do one, but macOS isn't yet iPadOS, and cruft happens.

Sorry but that’s absolutely rubbish. You shouldn’t have to wipe everything from a computer to have it usable, ever.

You shouldn’t have to wipe everything from a computer to have it usable, ever.

Thanks, I laughed a little at that.

People have been saying exactly that for as long as operating systems have been on disk. I was thinking just a few days ago that I must have installed OS/2 50 or 60 times in its day.

I can't calculate the number of weeks of my life I've wasted babysitting clean operating system installs.

You're right, it shouldn't happen. But we're decades away from that being the reality.

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Post by lisper »

Nition wrote: post #292
lisper wrote: post #15

IMHO Apple's design jumped the shark a long time ago. Even apart from the aesthetics of the "flat" look, which I like about as much as fingernails on a chalkboard, Apple has completely abandoned the principles that made the original Mac great: ease of use and discoverability. Once upon a time it was easy to tell where the affordances were, what you could click on, editable vs non-editable text. Nowadays everything lo…

Unfortunately you can replace Apple with Microsoft here and say the exact same thing.

Indeed. :-(

No one makes a computer that Just Works any more. It's a real problem.

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Post by reaperducer »

r00fus wrote: post #159
wycy wrote: post #125

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Catalina is the one and only macOS upgrade I regret doing. It has mostly been bug-free, but I was surprised how much software no longer works due to the 64-bit change.

What is not working for you? I did the analysis a while back and (I stopped doing kexts back when SIP hit) - I have like no 32bit apps worth keeping (I don't have to use legacy Photoshop).

The accounting software my accountant requires me to use for my business is 32-bit. Luckily I have an old iMac in the closet I use as a media server and for the accounting software.

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Post by floatingatoll »

read_if_gay_ wrote: post #197
floatingatoll wrote: post #171

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They've said in the past couple years in interviews that this is a bad idea - a bad direction to follow - and they don't intend to do it.

Then why are they doing: * ARM macbooks * iOS Apps on macOS * iOS look-and-feel on macOS * iOS features like Control Center, Widgets on macOS Each one of these might be justifiable in isolation, but viewed as a whole it paints another picture.

iOS gets some things right where macOS gets them wrong. That doesn’t mean that they’ll merge the operating systems, when they literally just split up iOS and iPadOS to allow more depth of differences between those platforms.
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