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Reflections on Being a Female Founder

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Re: Reflections on Being a Female Founder

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This was an interesting read. I found it well written and kind of sad, if optimistic and hopeful. Personally, I would love to see a lot more female developers. I am betting there is no significant difference in inherent potential talent between the two genders, so why are almost all coders I've worked with male?

One thing that bugs me: Women I know who wrote software kept finding new roles where they'd be in management instead and then they moan that they liked writing code and miss it. Maybe that tells us that sexism in software development is prevalent and they wanted out, which is no fault of theirs, and maybe they just wanted more money - but it definitely sucks overall.

I find blind technical interviewing easy because I don't usually remember new people after a few moments. My reports say "The applicant" not out of a deliberate effort to screen the potential hire's name, race, gender - anything like that but because if they left an hour ago I already couldn't tell you anything whatsoever about them besides that they've got this very idiosyncratic approach to loop structures or they seemed not to understand what thread safety means or whatever.

The only interviewee I remember at all now was a Russian woman for whom it was her first interview in the country, and her first interview in English, and my core goal for the entire time was to keep her calm enough that I could discern whether she knew how to do the job. It isn't humanly possible to stay terrified for say months, eventually she will relax if we hire her (and she did, she was fine within a week) - but she might manage to stay terrified for long enough that I can't tell if she actually understands what a compound primary key is and how these iterators I'm talking about work and if I'm not sure then hiring her would be a big risk.

Re: Reflections on Being a Female Founder

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post #23

This was an interesting read. I found it well written and kind of sad, if optimistic and hopeful. Personally, I would love to see a lot more female developers. I am betting there is no significant difference in inherent potential talent between the two genders, so why are almost all coders I've worked with male?

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Re: Reflections on Being a Female Founder

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many times in the article she perceive male founders as stoic machines that regardless of health or mental state would go to work and operate as if nothing is wrong, and then goes to copy that. That is a stereotype that is hurting both men and women, and removing that would resolve a lot of the hardship.

Postmortems often happen because someone ignored a pain point prior to the failure, rather than taking stock and doing some preventative work. The general pattern of pretending everything is ok is one of my least favorite things about tech culture. I was going to say 'tech people' but it's clear that there are people who don't like this pattern either. They tend to self-identify (sometimes privately) when I buck the…

This is probably also true of ACTUAL postmortems....

Re: Reflections on Being a Female Founder

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post #23

This was an interesting read. I found it well written and kind of sad, if optimistic and hopeful. Personally, I would love to see a lot more female developers. I am betting there is no significant difference in inherent potential talent between the two genders, so why are almost all coders I've worked with male?

> Personally, I would love to see a lot more female developers.

See there you betray a rather sinister idea. If you had said that you want to see any unfair barriers to entry removed, or that you want to ensure equal exposure and opportunity across all people and all fields then I could support it. But instead you made your desires quite clear: you just want female developers. That means the gender, physical appearance, and perhaps even sexual preferences, of developers actually matters to you. Do you have any idea why this is?

Re: Reflections on Being a Female Founder

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being a "likable person" is, for better or worse, pretty significant in sales / pitching / persuasion of any kind. If you really feel you lack this and have limited ability to improve, then a partner who fills this gap would be indispensable for your endeavors.

Yep, that's why I gave up.

Sounds like your gender is not a problem, since you concede that an investment in your venture would likely be wasted

Re: Reflections on Being a Female Founder

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I think if I were female, I'd be a more successful founder. As a white male, I found that no investors were even willing to talk to me in spite of being an early employee at some great startups including Airbnb. I applied (and interviewed) at YC multiple times and was rejected for mostly BS reasons, which I think were just a cover for "we don't like you". I get it, I'm not a likable person, it's something I have to l…

I'm sure many of us can empathize with your struggles, but starting a gender flamewar is not a valid way to express them on Hacker News, so please don't do that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

To be fair, the article itself is starting a gender flamewar. It could have just been "Reflections on Being a Founder" but it's, of course, "Female Founder". Why is he not allowed to express his experiences as a male?

Re: Reflections on Being a Female Founder

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I think if I were female, I'd be a more successful founder. As a white male, I found that no investors were even willing to talk to me in spite of being an early employee at some great startups including Airbnb. I applied (and interviewed) at YC multiple times and was rejected for mostly BS reasons, which I think were just a cover for "we don't like you". I get it, I'm not a likable person, it's something I have to l…

> There's a significant number of VCs and funds which only invest in female founders, which is a huge advantage. I understand your reasoning in saying this, but please try to understand that being taken seriously as a female founder is much more difficult being taken seriously as a male. These VCs exist to combat this preexisting inequality.

> being taken seriously as a female founder is much more difficult being taken seriously as a male

Where's the evidence of this?

Edit: Just think for a second about the fact that this comment, asking simply: "Where's the evidence for this?", is getting buried (currently on -3).

Re: Reflections on Being a Female Founder

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post #23

This was an interesting read. I found it well written and kind of sad, if optimistic and hopeful. Personally, I would love to see a lot more female developers. I am betting there is no significant difference in inherent potential talent between the two genders, so why are almost all coders I've worked with male?

One thing that bugs me: Women I know who wrote software kept finding new roles where they'd be in management instead and then they moan that they liked writing code and miss it. Maybe that tells us that sexism in software development is prevalent and they wanted out, which is no fault of theirs, and maybe they just wanted more money - but it definitely sucks overall. I find blind technical interviewing easy because I…

> Women I know who wrote software kept finding new roles where they'd be in management instead and then they moan that they liked writing code and miss it. Maybe that tells us that sexism in software development is prevalent and they wanted out, which is no fault of theirs, and maybe they just wanted more money - but it definitely sucks overall.

I secretly (well not in this moment but ordinarily secret) consider women in software development smarter than men, on average, due precisely to this observed tendency to spot where the social and monetary rewards are (management, other social roles "above" developers) almost immediately and start aiming for that ASAP.

[EDIT] this is in general bigcos and "startupy" places, anyway—I dunno if that trend holds in e.g. FAANG or finance or the other places where devs actually do make really, really good money rather than just good-for-not-a-manager like everywhere else.

Re: Reflections on Being a Female Founder

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure many of us can empathize with your struggles, but starting a gender flamewar is not a valid way to express them on Hacker News, so please don't do that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

To be fair, the article itself is starting a gender flamewar. It could have just been "Reflections on Being a Founder" but it's, of course, "Female Founder". Why is he not allowed to express his experiences as a male?

The article itself is not starting a gender flamewar. The author is reflecting on her experiences. It's interesting. The flamewar starts when some users find parts of it activating and rush to the comment thread to reflexively vent their activation. Better options would be to reflect on one's own reactions long enough for them to turn into something thoughtful [1], or simply not to post. If you don't find it interesting, there are other things to read and discuss here.

[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Re: Reflections on Being a Female Founder

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post #23

This was an interesting read. I found it well written and kind of sad, if optimistic and hopeful. Personally, I would love to see a lot more female developers. I am betting there is no significant difference in inherent potential talent between the two genders, so why are almost all coders I've worked with male?

I've noticed no talent differences. I've worked with men and women who were great devs, and I've worked with men and women who weren't.
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