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Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by milkytron » Mon, Jun 22, 2020, 7:44 PM UTC

Is there a reason why Apple updates their Mac apps with each OS release, instead of individually through the app store?

I would imagine the changes to Safari could've been made without having to upgrade the OS.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by schaefer » Mon, Jun 22, 2020, 7:45 PM UTC

frou_dh wrote: post #25

I'm wondering if this is the release where OpenGL goes from deprecated to fully removed. Presumably Apple didn't want to write OpenGL drivers (full, not ES) for their in-house GPUs.

Anyone know How this would impact webgl content running in safari? Presumably it's translated to metal calls from within Safari?

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by bondarchuk » Mon, Jun 22, 2020, 7:45 PM UTC

pcr910303 wrote: post #6

I hate that they’re moving to a design where buttons don’t have borders and textures, don’t provide any visual guidances on what’s a button and what’s not. But I absolutely despise them for making iOS apps installable on macOS. That’s... just terrible. This WWDC just felt like that Apple decided that macOS should get merged with iOS and converged them. The Mac doesn’t have a future...

>making iOS apps installable on macOS

Does that mean I can ditch my phone and install whatsapp as a standalone desktop app?

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jun 22, 2020, 7:46 PM UTC

milkytron wrote: post #71

Is there a reason why Apple updates their Mac apps with each OS release, instead of individually through the app store? I would imagine the changes to Safari could've been made without having to upgrade the OS.

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Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by tinus_hn » Mon, Jun 22, 2020, 7:47 PM UTC

switz wrote: post #3

I still remember the Snow Leopard 'No New Features' launch. Mac OS has been as buggy as ever lately, I'd welcome another 'no new features' release with open arms.

Perhaps they just undeleted Widgets from Mojave, it’s not like it’s a new idea

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by disposekinetics » Mon, Jun 22, 2020, 7:47 PM UTC

Most of these look like apps, not OS enhancements.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by dcchambers » Mon, Jun 22, 2020, 7:48 PM UTC

I'm not sure why I continue to look forward to new Mac OS announcements every year when Apple continues to focus on consumer apps/features and not pro/developer features. Literally nothing in that preview page excites me as someone that uses Mac OS mainly for developing software. I wish they would use WWDC to announce developer and pro features and not consumer OS features.

I don't really care for the UI changes, but I spend such little time in the UI that I guess it doesn't matter much. The iOS-ification of Mac OS is an unfortunate change. I don't use any of the built-in apps with the exception of terminal.app and finder. Meh.

Most interesting: This appears to be the end of "OS X" as version was listed as "11.0" in the keynote.

Will Big Sur and Mac OS (beyond OS X) continue to be certified UNIX?

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by tinus_hn » Mon, Jun 22, 2020, 7:48 PM UTC

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #43

ksec wrote: post #30

The biggest question I had when I was watching, Why did they not take the chance to rename is as macOS 11? OSX has been through two transition. The NeXT team must be very proud of their foundation they built 2x years ago.

I wish it was MacOS 16. Just drop the 10. part.

MacOS 0xA

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by henriquez » Mon, Jun 22, 2020, 7:48 PM UTC

This site and its scroll-hijacking are unusably choppy on my 2018 Macbook Air. It seems like a total departure from Apple's attention to detail, but maybe that's a gentle reminder that Apple considers this computer to be EOL hardware.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by dguo » Mon, Jun 22, 2020, 7:49 PM UTC

As a developer, one thing I am excited about is that they are adding support for the WebExtensions API to Safari. This should make it feasible to port many Chrome/Firefox extensions to Safari.