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Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

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IDK, "look how good our CPU support is by running a several year old GPU limited game" fell a bit flat for me.

It’s not about the game, it’s about running performance-dependent code written for x86 on an ARM chip. A lot harder to fake a stable frame rate in a game than in Photoshop.

It’s mostly OpenGL/metal. Show me a cpu intensive task which isn’t already gpu native/jit

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OK, so should I sell all my macOS hardware (except Hackintoshes) now? Is this exclusive or half-baked like MS Surface ARM, i.e. some running on Intel, some on ARM? If it is half-baked, what's the point of fragmenting macOS and apps it can run? What's the best non-Apple notebook these days?

Apple always goes all-in on something like this, so while they'll continue to make Intel Macs for a while, and support them for (my wild guess) 5 years, they're definitely going 100% to ARM.

Every other major hardware company plays it safe by supporting as much of their user base as they possibly can with a wide variety of configurations. Apple doesn't.

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I'm curious if (1) that first Mac to ship with "Apple Silicon" will be pack an A14 -- A14X? -- chip and (2) if we'll get new branding to distinguish CPUs for phones, iPads, and macOS devices.

UPDATE: I don't mean the developer transition kit that has a Mac mini with an A12Z, I mean the first consumer macOS device/macBook

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I'm surprised we didn't get any performance numbers. Either raw power or at least power efficiency and projected battery life improvements. Seeing as this is a major reason for the transition (according to them), it feels very weird. They're shipping a 'Development Transition Kit' Mac mini with an A12Z this week, so it's not like the numbers are going to stay private for a long time. Even if there's an NDA, someone's…

They are probably still working on ARM specific optimizations and benchmarks, and they prefer to wait to show their results, to maximize the impact.

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So, if I install numpy via conda on a Mac now, it's backed by Intel MKL and is thus amazingly fast. What will it be replaced with? Has anyone at Apple thought about use cases like this?..

numpy/scipy/etc will have to support Accelerate instead of MKL.

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Well, that new MBP I bought 4 weeks ago and planned to keep for 5 years just got a muuuuch shorter life span if I can run iOS apps on an Arm Mac, my wife is going to be livid. I guess this also means Catalyst’s life span is pretty short and SwiftUI will becomes the focus?

SwiftUI and Catalyst are not mutually exclusive.

I started a new iOS app recently, and there was essentially no cost to building for catalyst.

I am using SwiftUI and I considered targetting MacOS directly, but the extra work wasn’t worth it at this stage.

I think catalyst is the new Cocoa - it will grow to consume all of MacOS.

Re: Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

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The A12Z is already faster than every tablet and phone in existence. Depending on the benchmark, it smokes about 80% of off the shelf PC hardware. They really don't need to do that much.

I believe Apple can make processors for laptop and normal desktop in A-series way but I'm curious how they make for Mac Pro. Adopting architecture like chiplet?

Tim Cook did say at the end that they still had intel hardware in the pipeline. Maybe Mac Pro will stay intel for a while?
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