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Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

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Post by goalieca »

marricks wrote: post #131
Cu3PO42 wrote: post #102

I'm surprised we didn't get any performance numbers. Either raw power or at least power efficiency and projected battery life improvements. Seeing as this is a major reason for the transition (according to them), it feels very weird. They're shipping a 'Development Transition Kit' Mac mini with an A12Z this week, so it's not like the numbers are going to stay private for a long time. Even if there's an NDA, someone's…

I wonder if they're holding them for the actual hardware release in Fall? They could still be deciding the tradeoff between battery life and raw power.

Well, it appeared to be a developer version of the chip and not the final customer copy.

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Post by thought_alarm »

cm0000cm wrote: post #29

I was seriously considering upgrading my 2012 MacBook to the new 16" model soon, but now I wonder what kind of longevity or support I can expect from that hardware...

Given Apple's track record of supporting older Mac hardware, I would expect Intel Mac hardware to be supported for many years and many OS versions after the last Intel Mac has been produced.

Also given Apple's recent MacBook track record, the first version of ARM Macs may not be as much of a slam dunk as people hope.

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Post by kakali »

aldanor wrote: post #40

So, if I install numpy via conda on a Mac now, it's backed by Intel MKL and is thus amazingly fast. What will it be replaced with? Has anyone at Apple thought about use cases like this?..

Isn't that what VecLib is for? Also there are other math libraries to use on ARM. I think we use EigenBLAS in our products.

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Post by monocasa »

snowwrestler wrote: post #122
valuearb wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dual CPUs never made any sense. That’s why they are doing emulation and binary conversion. Maybe Apple adds the i86 instruction set as a module in their SOCs, but they aren’t paying intel CPU prices on their ARM Macs.

Did I misinterpret today? Didn't Apple just release a machine with ARM and Intel?

It's an ARM only Developer Kit.

Re: Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

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Post by bredren »

Cu3PO42 wrote: post #102

I'm surprised we didn't get any performance numbers. Either raw power or at least power efficiency and projected battery life improvements. Seeing as this is a major reason for the transition (according to them), it feels very weird. They're shipping a 'Development Transition Kit' Mac mini with an A12Z this week, so it's not like the numbers are going to stay private for a long time. Even if there's an NDA, someone's…

It wasn't just lack of performance numbers, there were no actual products announced. They would have had to tip their hand on a lot of info that is not helpful to customers or their ability to keep selling Intel stuff.

One big question though will be how this devkit benchmarks against the current maxed Intel mac mini. I'm curious if GPU performance beats the current BlackMagic eGPU. (rx 580)

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