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Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

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Re: Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

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OK, so should I sell all my macOS hardware (except Hackintoshes) now? Is this exclusive or half-baked like MS Surface ARM, i.e. some running on Intel, some on ARM? If it is half-baked, what's the point of fragmenting macOS and apps it can run?

What's the best non-Apple notebook these days?

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Whether or not they think that or they can, they have been developing GPUs for iOS devices. It'll be interesting to see what they do for their desktops.

I agree. I know they're currently using AMD GPUs, but how much longer will they keep using AMD if they believe that their own in house chips can do a better job? Also, I'm curious as to whether they would try to sell their GPUs (iGPU?) to gamers who traditionally don't stay within the Mac ecosystem at all. Having a 3rd major player in the GPU space would be wild.

Apple uses SOCs, the GPUs are on the same chip as the processor.

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I wonder what the cost of the transition mini is.

If it's like the switch to Intel then it will be $999 and you have to return it when the real versions come out but you'll get a replacement with one of those real versions. Except with the Intel switch you were shipped a slightly repackaged beige box... and that was 15 years ago so my guess is $1499.

Didn’t that also include a discount on the final replacement equivalent?

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So, if I install numpy via conda on a Mac now, it's backed by Intel MKL and is thus amazingly fast. What will it be replaced with? Has anyone at Apple thought about use cases like this?..

PCs are for gaming. PCs are for work. Macs are for... students and middle managers apparently.

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edit: why the downvotes? legit curious I'm curious about the future, especially games, if they want to take on consoles. PS4 and XboxOne are 7 years old and while the next gen looks really good Apple can refresh the productline much quicker (on the other hand it's a good question if people really would want to buy a new console say every year because Apple sure will be aggressive pushing out new models much more freq…

macOS's gaming story has always been pretty abysmal. They nuked a ton of games when they dropped 32-bit support, and they refuse to implement the graphics API that the gaming industry is standardizing around. I don't foresee any improvements in Mac gaming from this announcement.

Note: the gaming industry is not actually standardizing around Vulkan. It is still DX on Windows, Metal on Mac/iOS, and then Vulkan on Android

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Tim Cook just said they have new intel macs in the pipeline. Those will go over like a lead balloon.

I'm in the market for a new laptop, and if I knew how long the Intel macs would be supported, I could see myself picking one up. Unfortunately, nothing was said about that so I guess I'm holding off.

Standard Apple support is 7 years from last date of sale. 2 years for transition, so seems reasonable to expect support most of the way to 2030.

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I wouldn't be so sure, there are a fair number of people who want a machine that will run x86 for various reasons. Windows support/ Linux support. Even considering how impressive x86 VMs looked in the demo, lots of people will prefer using intel silicon for guaranteed compatibility.

Linux and Windows have both supported ARM for a while now.

Unless the new ARM chips can handle VirtualBox well, I’ll pick up the last intel model. I have to work with old ASP apps in IE VMs side-by-side with stuff on my Mac every day.

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Now will Qualcomm feel a little more competition or not? There chips are slow in mobiles and they are slow in PCs, compared to Apple's processors.

Different segmentation - Qualcomm powered laptops are the weakest ultrabooks, compared to Macbook Pros. I really wish Qualcomm chips were better though.
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