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Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

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Re: Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

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Tim Cook just said they have new intel macs in the pipeline. Those will go over like a lead balloon.

What is really sad is that I don't think the majority of Apple consumers really understand what this means for the Intel macs in the long run. I fear a number of people will buy them not realizing they have a very limited lifespan.

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Re: Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

#93
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Tim Cook just said they have new intel macs in the pipeline. Those will go over like a lead balloon.

And I reckon those of us who just bought a shiny new Intel Mac in the past few months might be questioning our decision. Should have held on to that 2010 MBP one more year?

I was thinking the same, but I always avoid gen1 Apple gear anyway, so it’d basically be another 2 years before it’d have been time to upgrade.

Re: Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

#94

Is it just me or did apple just bungle this entire announcement by not announcing a consumer facing ARM MacOS device, only a hot-rodded Mac Mini with an iPad Pro chip inside. How many devs actually have the setup in place to use a non mobile device? I also wonder if the current+last gen iPad Pro that has the new keyboard + trackpad case will gain the ability to run Xcode and native macOS apps in the near future.

They do their hardware releases in the other conferences at predictable times of the year

Re: Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

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I was interested by the GPU that was mentioned in the slide, does this mean that Apple is thinking that they have the expertise to take on Nvidia and AMD in that space?

Given the lackluster support Apple has for the AMD GPUs they currently ship I bet it will feel like an upgrade. Plus a lot of the product line uses the integrated Intel graphics so beating that isn't much of a challenge.

Re: Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

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So, if I install numpy via conda on a Mac now, it's backed by Intel MKL and is thus amazingly fast. What will it be replaced with? Has anyone at Apple thought about use cases like this?..

ARM Neon instructions are pretty fast for math, but I haven't looked for benchmarks:

http://www.netlib.org/utk/people/JackDongarra/WEB-PAGES/Batc...

Re: Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

#97
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious that they said nothing about virtualizing Windows. That can’t be a mistake or oversight. Odd.

It may be to avoid appearing to be misleading. They'll almost certainly be able to virtualize ARM-based Windows, but that's not what normal users are looking for when they want to virtualize Windows.

How many people still use Parallels or other virtualization for their Macs?

I've stopped doing that years ago. No need now - if you want to play Windows games, buy a PC - it's a lot cheaper.

Re: Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

#98

This is a demo so take with huge grain of salt, but the x86 performance looks solid... better than I expected considering it's based on an iPad CPU.

IDK, "look how good our CPU support is by running a several year old GPU limited game" fell a bit flat for me.

I think your expectations for what emulation is capable of are set a bit high. The fact that it is able to emulate a game that's a few years old at decent frame rate is more than acceptable. You didn't see Microsoft demoing games for their Surface on ARM systems at all and for good reason.

Re: Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

#99

Now will Qualcomm feel a little more competition or not? There chips are slow in mobiles and they are slow in PCs, compared to Apple's processors.

They did not seem to care for the past years either so what does this change

Re: Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

#100
Good time for anyone who was using macOS for gaming or anything else for that matter to switch to Linux. OpenGL bit rot, refusal to support Vulkan, dropping of 32-bit, dropping of x86_64 architecture - all that should have been a hint. Backwards compatibility is not even an option there (besides for emulation).
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