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Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

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Re: Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

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It's interesting that their official virtualization support (in the demo) is Parallels.

Curious that they said nothing about virtualizing Windows. That can’t be a mistake or oversight. Odd.

It may be to avoid appearing to be misleading. They'll almost certainly be able to virtualize ARM-based Windows, but that's not what normal users are looking for when they want to virtualize Windows.

Re: Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

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“We've been down this road before”

Yes, and then you ‘upgraded’ the OS and gratuitously stopped running older software. My final Mac Pro — yes, I was a buyer of Mac Pro grade hardware — still runs 10.6.8 for that reason.

https://youtu.be/UDfAdHBtK_Q

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It's interesting that their official virtualization support (in the demo) is Parallels.

Curious that they said nothing about virtualizing Windows. That can’t be a mistake or oversight. Odd.

Indeed - only talked about Linux, of which there are of course ARM versions available.

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I really wonder if this will result in the Mac-ification of iPad. Would love to finally run a MacOS environment on a tablet.

It seems to be going the other way actually. MacOS Big Sur looks like iPadOS with a menu bar tacked on.

What they did to Finder is just...unacceptable.

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Besides native apps from Apple, Microsoft, and Adobe (Universal 2), the demo included Maya and Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Rosetta 2), and Parallels Desktop (unspecified virtualization improvements). I couldn't tell if the guest O/S was Debian for x84-64 or Aarch64.

I was curious about the hardware they used for the demo.

One of the About This Mac dialogs showed an A12Z with 16 GB, which is consistent with the developer transition kit, basically an iPad Pro in a Mac mini case: A12Z, 16 GB, 512 GB SSD.

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Besides native apps from Apple, Microsoft, and Adobe (Universal 2), the demo included Maya and Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Rosetta 2), and Parallels Desktop (unspecified virtualization improvements). I couldn't tell if the guest O/S was Debian for x84-64 or Aarch64.

I was curious about the hardware they used for the demo.

It said A12Z. Mac Minis with A12 available next week to devs.

Re: Apple announces it will switch to its own processors for future Macs

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This is a demo so take with huge grain of salt, but the x86 performance looks solid... better than I expected considering it's based on an iPad CPU.

IDK, "look how good our CPU support is by running a several year old GPU limited game" fell a bit flat for me.
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