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Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by root_axis »

cwhiz wrote: post #111

I don't think Reddit should be able to censor lawful content and also claim protections under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. If they want to police lawful content that is fine but then they are no longer an open platform and they should forfeit their Section 230 protections. I dislike the ability for online platforms to have their cake of protection against lawsuits and also eat their cake of policing…

Without section 230 protection it would be impossible for the site to stay open, so in effect you're saying sites that moderate user content should be shut down. Does that seem like an accurate interpretation of your position?

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by Scoundreller »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #61
buboard wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because competitors exist

Not really. And forcing all of your unwanted/toxic subreddits to Reddit clones only damns them from ever gaining traction. Take a look: https://voat.co/

Subreddits can be unwanted by Reddit, but otherwise non-toxic.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by MattGaiser »

Scoundreller wrote: post #90
torben-friis wrote: post #22

I don't really get reddit's efforts to clean their site. They sometimes come up with measures like this, while routinely ignoring the development of horrible communities that they're aware of (since some users take any possible opportunity to mention them to the admins and are met with silence or half measures). They even came up with the concept of quarantined subreddits. I honestly can't think of a single honest re…

There is a marijuana related subreddit that is geo-banned from Canadian IPs. Reddit just says “This content has been restricted in your country in response to a legal request. Geoblocked in Canada due to General legal request” Is there any way to push Reddit to disclose who sent the request? I’d love to followup with that agency, but we have a lot of police services in Canada, if it was one.

From Canadian IPs? It is legal here now, so that is odd.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by staycoolboy »

haunter wrote: post #69
staycoolboy wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read digg multiple times a day. It is far better than it was over a decade ago. As an aggregator, it is nearly perfectly aligned with my interests (except for the year they spent heavily promoting Jimmy Fallon).

That doesn't really say anything. I read CNN multiple times a day. As a news site, it is nearly perfectly aligned with my interests.

OP hopes digg goes away. I point out that it is a good site.

Where did I lose you?

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by goodluckchuck »

torben-friis wrote: post #22

I don't really get reddit's efforts to clean their site. They sometimes come up with measures like this, while routinely ignoring the development of horrible communities that they're aware of (since some users take any possible opportunity to mention them to the admins and are met with silence or half measures). They even came up with the concept of quarantined subreddits. I honestly can't think of a single honest re…

> They even came up with the concept of quarantined subreddits. I honestly can't think of a single honest reason for them existing. Once you've deemed a community so harmful that you don't want people accidentally stumbling into it, why go out of your way to allow it to exist behind a curtain, instead of just outright banning it (unless you want to support it discreetly).

Reddit came up with quarantining specifically to suppress /r/The_Donald. It had nothing to do with cleaning up the site and everything to do with advancing a political agenda.

Now they're just stuck with a pretense and a set of rules that were never intended to be enforced fairly, and a user-base that (quite rightly) sees the rules as being arbitrarily enforced.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by finnthehuman »

dmart wrote: post #11

I don't understand why you would even publicize this. Just stop counting those users' votes, if that's what you want to do? There's enough fuzz in the vote counts that no one would notice, and you wouldn't have any controversy on your hands.

>I don't understand why you would even publicize this. Just stop counting those users' votes, if that's what you want to do?

Those user's votes don't matter, scaring the userbase into narrowing their overton windows of acceptable reddit voting is what matters.

More broadly Reddit wants to be seen as taking action. The incentive structure facing that company rewards loudly making a slight improvement to the site over quietly making a huge improvement.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by alacombe »

root_axis wrote: post #131
cwhiz wrote: post #111

I don't think Reddit should be able to censor lawful content and also claim protections under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. If they want to police lawful content that is fine but then they are no longer an open platform and they should forfeit their Section 230 protections. I dislike the ability for online platforms to have their cake of protection against lawsuits and also eat their cake of policing…

Without section 230 protection it would be impossible for the site to stay open, so in effect you're saying sites that moderate user content should be shut down. Does that seem like an accurate interpretation of your position?

I'm fine with that. They decide to take a political stance, they shall deal with the legal consequence of their actions.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by conradfr »

kache_ wrote: post #27

Reddit has been compromised with actors who do not have free speech in their best interest. The other day there was an illuminating ask reddit post about transexuals who decided to transition back and their experiences. That post got promptly removed by moderators; even though there was no hateful content within it at all. They effectively silenced the transexual population due to an ever so slight conflict of ideolo…

Not exactly the same thing but the other day I got banned from r/ADHD for a (moderate from my POV) comment about pronouns.

The mod then gloated about banning dozens of people other this and that "LGBTQIA+ people run the subreddit", and that "the lack of discrimination (...) for being cis or being white or being straight or being a man overshadows any discrimination they would receive for their adhd"

I don't think that's great moderation given the subject of the subreddit but what can you even do about it that would not be time consuming and pointless?

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by haunter »

notkaiho wrote: post #34
godzillabrennus wrote: post #15

There is an alternative to the group think/hive mind called https://gab.com/ but it’s also a cesspool or horrible people sharing horrible ideas. Not sure what makes sense.

So it's a hive mind and group think but with terrible people instead?

So not so different from /r/politics then?

"Orange man bad" 320k upvotes, front page

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by bt4u2 »

kaybe wrote: post #96
kache_ wrote: post #27

Reddit has been compromised with actors who do not have free speech in their best interest. The other day there was an illuminating ask reddit post about transexuals who decided to transition back and their experiences. That post got promptly removed by moderators; even though there was no hateful content within it at all. They effectively silenced the transexual population due to an ever so slight conflict of ideolo…

There is a whole subreddit about this topic however. https://www.reddit.com/r/detrans/

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