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Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by ApolloFortyNine »

gnulinux wrote: post #60
justaman wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't happen soon enough. The days where forums were the defacto place for discussion were just better. The communities would self-police and alternative opinions weren't suppressed nearly as easily. Reddit is a meme slideshow, not a place for discussion.

I don't want to register zillions of forums and manage my passwords. I contribute to hundreds of subreddits. If reddit dies I'll find a replacement like reddit and move on.

A "log in with Google/Apple/Github/whatever" fixes that issue easily enough.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by TheAdamAndChe »

MisterTea wrote: post #53
torben-friis wrote: post #22

I don't really get reddit's efforts to clean their site. They sometimes come up with measures like this, while routinely ignoring the development of horrible communities that they're aware of (since some users take any possible opportunity to mention them to the admins and are met with silence or half measures). They even came up with the concept of quarantined subreddits. I honestly can't think of a single honest re…

> Once you've deemed a community so harmful that you don't want people accidentally stumbling into it, why go out of your way to allow it to exist behind a curtain, instead of just outright banning it (unless you want to support it discreetly). Perhaps this is a way to sidestep claims of censorship. Deleting subs can embolden some community themes and messages by allowing them to play victim of censorship and bolster…

It also keeps people from flooding into the rest of Reddit. When /r/fatpeoplehate was banned, their users flooded and spammed most other subreddits.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by s9w »

stevebmark wrote: post #63
godzillabrennus wrote: post #15

There is an alternative to the group think/hive mind called https://gab.com/ but it’s also a cesspool or horrible people sharing horrible ideas. Not sure what makes sense.

It continuously baffles me that some people don't learn from unmoderated online communities. They become dens of bigotry, doxing, attack mobs, racism, misogyny. Saying your site is driven only by "free speech" is the cowardly reply that refuses to stand up to these things.

It's not mandatory to be against the things that you listed. Many people enjoy reading and talking about things they're legally allowed to.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by dageshi »

kache_ wrote: post #27

Reddit has been compromised with actors who do not have free speech in their best interest. The other day there was an illuminating ask reddit post about transexuals who decided to transition back and their experiences. That post got promptly removed by moderators; even though there was no hateful content within it at all. They effectively silenced the transexual population due to an ever so slight conflict of ideolo…

I imagine the mods have a fairly finely tuned sense of which threads will turn into a shitstorm and don't give a fuck about pre-emptively killing them.

And honestly I WISH nobody used reddit anymore, maybe it could roll back 10 years when it was frankly more fun, but it sure seems like more people than ever are using it.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by torben-friis »

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #48
torben-friis wrote: post #22

I don't really get reddit's efforts to clean their site. They sometimes come up with measures like this, while routinely ignoring the development of horrible communities that they're aware of (since some users take any possible opportunity to mention them to the admins and are met with silence or half measures). They even came up with the concept of quarantined subreddits. I honestly can't think of a single honest re…

The missing component of your thought process is who, exactly, deems subreddits not worthy of existence. Many people view pornography as an extremely damaging problem and addiction, would you want all 18+ subreddits removes because somebody “can’t think of a single honest reason for them existing”?

> The missing component of your thought process is who, exactly, deems subreddits not worthy of existence.

The same people that deems them worth quarantining, presumably.

We could have a debate of the benefits and drawbacks of moderation, but by the time you have quarantines in place, the ship of not considering yourself a moderator has long sailed, which is why it doesn't make sense for me as a measure.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by Krasnol »

walrus01 wrote: post #8

Eventually reddit will go the way of digg and fade into irrelevance.

I see people writing this for years now. I guess at some point in history it will become true but I don't see a steep decline that would justify it atm.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by gnulinux »

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #71
gnulinux wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want to register zillions of forums and manage my passwords. I contribute to hundreds of subreddits. If reddit dies I'll find a replacement like reddit and move on.

A "log in with Google/Apple/Github/whatever" fixes that issue easily enough.

And most websites implement that? I like r/factorio on reddit. Factorio official forums require me to register with a username, email and password. I simply don't want to do that, and will not do that. I'd much rather not engage with factorio content than register a forum for 100s and 100s of things I'm interested in.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by stronglikedan »

notkaiho wrote: post #34
godzillabrennus wrote: post #15

There is an alternative to the group think/hive mind called https://gab.com/ but it’s also a cesspool or horrible people sharing horrible ideas. Not sure what makes sense.

So it's a hive mind and group think but with terrible people instead?

> terrible people instead

Just different terrible people from the terrible people who dominate reddit is all.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by stingraycharles »

MisterTea wrote: post #53
torben-friis wrote: post #22

I don't really get reddit's efforts to clean their site. They sometimes come up with measures like this, while routinely ignoring the development of horrible communities that they're aware of (since some users take any possible opportunity to mention them to the admins and are met with silence or half measures). They even came up with the concept of quarantined subreddits. I honestly can't think of a single honest re…

> Once you've deemed a community so harmful that you don't want people accidentally stumbling into it, why go out of your way to allow it to exist behind a curtain, instead of just outright banning it (unless you want to support it discreetly). Perhaps this is a way to sidestep claims of censorship. Deleting subs can embolden some community themes and messages by allowing them to play victim of censorship and bolster…

This is most definitely the case. The outrage inside Reddit is massive when there are signs of censorship, even if it’s just a very vocal minority: they set the tone.

Keeping this group of people happy, while at the same time trying to maintain a somewhat “clean” site, is a delicate balancing act. I am certain that quarantined subreddits is a result of this.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by dannyw »

gruez wrote: post #40

My long time reddit account (same name as my hn account) was shadowbanned 2 weeks ago. I sent them an appeal and they responded really quick (it was sunday night I believe) saying that my account "got caught by Reddit's spam filter" and unbanned the account. A few days later my account was banned again . I sent an appeal and this time they haven't responded in over a week. Is this possibly related?

Probably not, but my reddit account of 10+ years have been shadowbanned too with no explanation. As a Digg immigrant, I can't wait to migrate away to the next reddit.
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